huck
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Post by huck on Mar 1, 2021 2:46:50 GMT -5
Hey, all,
I just got a 75th anniversary P bass, and it's pretty great with one issue -- the fret ends aren't rounded. To be honest, I don't really notice it much when I'm playing, but when I pick up the bass by the neck or run my hand down it, these chunky ends are really noticeable.
I'm deciding whether to leave it as is, hire someone to round the ends, or buy a fret dressing file from StewMac. So a quick q for those of you who have done fretwork: Is this rounding really as easy as it looks at around 2:40 of this video?
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Post by Leftee on Mar 1, 2021 7:26:58 GMT -5
It’s not hard but it is tedious. Well-worth the effort, though. At least in my book.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Mar 1, 2021 7:58:05 GMT -5
I have a fret end dressing file from StewMac, works well. If I find the frets protrude farther than the edge of the fretboard (fret sprout) I'll run a flat file first along the edge at roughly a 35° angle to knock them down, then use the dressing file to round the corners. I don't have the SM bevel file/tool, looks handy but pricey. I also have some of their fret shields and fret erasers.
Dang that StewMax free shipping 😄
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Post by Leftee on Mar 1, 2021 8:19:11 GMT -5
I bought that kit the last time they were on sale. I’m happy with the purchase.
If you foresee having to do this work on more than one instrument, it’s a good investment. If this is a one-off job... maybe not.
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Post by huck on Mar 1, 2021 11:29:09 GMT -5
thanks, all. well, i've been playing forever and have never felt the need to work on frets like this before, so i can't imagine wanting to do it on a second guitar. maybe it's best to let a pro handle the tedium.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Mar 1, 2021 12:17:49 GMT -5
It's not necessarily tedious...it's a zen sort of zone to get into. The only caution here is to not apply too shallow a bevel on the ends of the frets because it reduces the playing surface on the crowns and the outside strings can slip off the neck. Many first-timers doing fretwork take too much off and there's no fix other than to replace the frets and properly bevel the ends. Here are some visuals: Your issue may simply be this: the bevels are fine, but the corners on the bevels need to be slightly rounded over and polished. You can easily fix this yourself as follows: Place the modded fret guard over each fret end and use 600-grit paper under your fingertip to scrub the end of each fret smooth and shiny. Use a fresh piece or section of 600 for each fret end because the paper loads up and will stop removing metal. The end result should look like this:
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Post by huck on Mar 1, 2021 18:23:23 GMT -5
thanks for the pic - that's exactly what's happening. i'm gonna pass. all of my other instruments are in good shape in this regard, so I don't have anything to practice on. I don't want to mess this one up a week after I got it.
a buddy of mine has done this many times and says he'll take care of it for me. I'll look over his shoulder so I can learn something.
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Post by Leftee on Mar 1, 2021 18:31:17 GMT -5
That’s a great solution. 😎
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Mar 2, 2021 8:58:02 GMT -5
thanks for the pic - that's exactly what's happening. i'm gonna pass. all of my other instruments are in good shape in this regard, so I don't have anything to practice on. I don't want to mess this one up a week after I got it. a buddy of mine has done this many times and says he'll take care of it for me. I'll look over his shoulder so I can learn something. Huck, send your tech pal a link to this thread so he'll know about the fretboard shield mod. This is something I invented years ago and I'm trying to spread the good word. It greatly simplifies and speeds up the process of polishing fret ends.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Mar 2, 2021 9:11:45 GMT -5
If the process makes you nervous at all, a finished maple board probably isn't the one to start with. Maybe for the best to wait for a better candidate to try it on. If you have a steady hand and good attention to detail it isn't that big of a job.
I have a few different regular flat files. They all have the narrow ends smoothed and the corners broken, and work a bit better when worn in a little. I typically start with the surface of the bevel and then do the tang after. I'll never go further than the bevel on an existing neck, so I always have something to watch. If I keep the file clean and my technique smooth I can avoid deep scratches. You can feel when you're done filing because the file will glide slightly differently when you are running across the wood. It can be a bit tricky if the edge of the fingerboard is rolled, but if in doubt just take your time. I finish it off with a file to round/deburr the edges. I have one of the Stew-Mac files and it works great, but I usually use a very light jeweler's file because it cuts a bit faster and gets to the under side of the crown easier, where little burs really like to hang out.
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Post by LTB on Mar 23, 2021 3:11:15 GMT -5
thanks for the pic - that's exactly what's happening. i'm gonna pass. all of my other instruments are in good shape in this regard, so I don't have anything to practice on. I don't want to mess this one up a week after I got it. a buddy of mine has done this many times and says he'll take care of it for me. I'll look over his shoulder so I can learn something. Huck, send your tech pal a link to this thread so he'll know about the fretboard shield mod. This is something I invented years ago and I'm trying to spread the good word. It greatly simplifies and speeds up the process of polishing fret ends. Thanks Geno, that is a great idea! Wish I had done that tool mod years ago. 😊😉
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