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Post by pcalu on Apr 9, 2021 22:08:33 GMT -5
Decided to play on the input 1, I had to totally rework the amp’s EQ, I kept thinking I had my TS mini on that i use as a boost.
I’m so accustom to the 2 input with the impedance difference. Playing on input 1 was like I was playing a hot rodded version of the amp. Lol... I can’t remember when I started using input 2, but that is all I plug into these days.
At first I was unaware of the the impedance difference between input 1 & 2 that effect pickups differently, I just thought it was a dbl difference.
Some are probably reading this and thinking Meh?
Play on input #2 for a few months, then use input #1. Once your ears get used to input #2 .., your going to hear a huge difference between inputs ...
Anyone exclusively use input # 2 like me?
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Post by pdf64 on Apr 10, 2021 4:49:43 GMT -5
My view is that input #1 is the ‘truer’ tone.
If the same tone as input #2 is desired, just turn the instrument’s tone control down a little. For much of the range of an instrument’s tone control, the change in tone is purely due to the effect of increased loading on the pickup. The cap could be replaced by a short, with no change in the tone control’s effect, until turned down to very low settings.
So if you’re using an amp that only has one input per channel, the ‘input #2’ tone can easily be replicated.
Bear in mind that anytime a buffered, ‘non true bypass’ pedal is used, input #2 will have the same tone as input #1, the only difference will be the 6dB level shift.
But again, in that scenario, the instrument’s tone control can be tweaked to get the ‘input #2’ effect.
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Post by pcalu on Apr 10, 2021 8:01:47 GMT -5
My view is that input #1 is the ‘truer’ tone. If the same tone as input #2 is desired, just turn the instrument’s tone control down a little. For much of the range of an instrument’s tone control, the change in tone is purely due to the effect of increased loading on the pickup. The cap could be replaced by a short, with no change in the tone control’s effect, until turned down to very low settings. So if you’re using an amp that only has one input per channel, the ‘input #2’ tone can easily be replicated. Bear in mind that anytime a buffered, ‘non true bypass’ pedal is used, input #2 will have the same tone as input #1, the only difference will be the 6dB level shift. But again, in that scenario, the instrument’s tone control can be tweaked to get the ‘input #2’ effect. You know more about this stuff than I do. (Don't be modest I've seen your posts) There is something else going on if it is not impedance. The reason I say this... when I use input 1, I have to change all my amp's eq settings . And not just a little... usually I have to roll back the Bass, add some treble... and if a 3 band w/ mids ,usually roll that back too. I practice and gig loud, so I'm on 3-4 when ever I plug a guitar in. Maybe its in my pedal board? I use a mix of true bypass and buffered, with a coiled cable. To my ears input 2 has more Low-Fi tonality (which I like... IDK why... maybe years of listing to 60s music on AM radio as a kid. lol |
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Post by pdf64 on Apr 11, 2021 5:14:44 GMT -5
Ahh, sorry, I was assuming that you were plugging straight in. As it is, it may be that the signal out of your pedalboard is a bit hot and is pushing the input valve a bit too hard unless it’s attenuated a little. Back when I used to gig and used a multi fx unit, I also used input #2 with clean amp settings, The slight mushing up that sounds great with a straight guitar signal into input #1 perhaps doesn’t tend to work so well with an already processed signal? In this case, I think it’s best to trust your ears, and carry on as you are  |
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Apr 11, 2021 6:16:49 GMT -5
I think the way input 2 pads the volume a bit affects the sound as much in the amp as how we perceive the sound from it. That may explain the need to tweak the EQ when using input 1. It's the same problem created by listening to music at low volume levels (it drastically cuts the lows and highs), and is why so many stereos in the 70s and 80s had that 'Loudness' switch to scoop the mids and balance the sound at low volumes.
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Post by Seldom Seen on Apr 11, 2021 11:02:59 GMT -5
I always use input 2 when playing through pedals and input 1 when playing straight through the amp. I’m sure I read this somewhere and it works for me.
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