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Post by langford on Apr 13, 2021 11:02:20 GMT -5
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Post by rok-a-bill-e on Apr 13, 2021 17:13:05 GMT -5
I was in Gruhn's one day talking to George and he showed me a black Les Paul that Neil Young had purchased before a show and then had it returned the next day with the message that he just didn't like it. George was pleased because he could now sell the guitar for more than before because Neil had played it onstage for a few songs. Now, if I was going to buy that guitar anyway I would think it was cool that NY had played it, but it would never induce me to buy the guitar for that reason alone, and I would pay a little but not much for those bragging rights.
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Post by roly on Apr 14, 2021 19:12:10 GMT -5
Jerry Scheff....Elvis' bass player used my bass on a couple of tracks many years ago up here. I didn't ask him to sign my bass and it is not for sale....does that count?
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Post by rickyguitar on Apr 14, 2021 20:01:35 GMT -5
Drummer i used to work with said his kit used to belong to Dewey Martin, Buffalo Springfield. Gold sparkle Ludwig, as I recall.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Apr 14, 2021 21:30:32 GMT -5
Our shop has had a signature Gibson archtop in for repairs before. It was a prototype owned by the signature artist. It also has the cremated remains in a tight bag inside the guitar. Does that count?
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Apr 15, 2021 7:46:27 GMT -5
Now ^^^THAT^^^ is crazy!
I'm going to guess comedian George Gobel. He was a nut!
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Apr 15, 2021 8:41:26 GMT -5
I had an amp that was used by Buddy Guy once. I frequently jammed at a local venue with the manager and some friends, so I left my amp there. One night Buddy Guy was playing and had problems with his amp, asked to use mine. I was there, the manager asked me and of course I said yes.
It was a Peavey Special 130... for some reason it sounded much better when Buddy was using it. I sold it at a garage sale without giving that any thought.
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Post by gato on Apr 15, 2021 9:19:28 GMT -5
I used to watch Pawn Stars. People were forever bringing in instruments and clothing "personally used" by some celebrity or other. In most cases the person bringing in a guitar or something would have nothing more than a verbal assurance that the instrument was owned or used by (fill in famous name). This was also the case in many instances, when the customer would bring in some movie prop, insisting that it was used in a film. An expert brought in for the evaluation would point out that the gun replica (for instance) may have been made for the movie, but never made it into a scene. Which is why it was so easily snagged, and wound up in the hands of the customer, who "knew a guy" from the film shoot.
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Post by tomcaster on Apr 15, 2021 10:57:28 GMT -5
The prices are all over the place. What's with the movie guitars? A guitar signed by Chewbacca? An awful lot of those signatures are illegible. I also don't get artist signed guitars that are not the model they are associated with. The Chuck Berry telecaster?
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Post by Think Floyd on Apr 15, 2021 11:00:44 GMT -5
I was in Gruhn's one day talking to George and he showed me a black Les Paul that Neil Young had purchased before a show and then had it returned the next day with the message that he just didn't like it. George was pleased because he could now sell the guitar for more than before because Neil had played it onstage for a few songs. Now, if I was going to buy that guitar anyway I would think it was cool that NY had played it, but it would never induce me to buy the guitar for that reason alone, and I would pay a little but not much for those bragging rights. +1,000,000,000 Apparently, I don't view things the same as most people. IMO, a guitar is a tool used to make music. Just because a "Star" owned a certain guitar doesn't make it worth thousands more than the exact same model owned by Joe Schmo. Now, I do think it's reasonable to pay a little more if you're a fan of that artist. Oh, but that guitar was used to record these Classic hits, you say? So what! The priceless, everlasting treasure is the song itself; not the tool used to make it. When I visited the Louvre in Paris, the paintbrush used wasn't on display next to the Mona Lisa. Speaking of "Fine Art", paying almost 7 figures for something like Clapton's "Blackie" turns it from just a guitar into a piece of collectible artwork. And, like the Mona Lisa, art is subjective. Billions of people couldn't care less about Clapton's guitar, and not everyone is a fan of Fine Art. These things are only valuable to those who fancy them and are willing to pay ridiculous prices to own them. To me, Clapton's Strat is basically no different than my Strat, and the Mona Lisa is no different than the drawings my daughter made in grade school.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Apr 15, 2021 19:04:48 GMT -5
I have firmly clasp the picking hand of Joe Walsh.
Would I have to cut my hand off to make it worth anything?
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Post by rickyguitar on Apr 15, 2021 20:26:12 GMT -5
^yes
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Post by ninworks on Apr 16, 2021 7:25:30 GMT -5
When I first glanced at this thread title I thought it said "Girls" touched by the rich and famous. Oh, that's different. Nevermind.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Apr 16, 2021 9:32:51 GMT -5
It was a Peavey Special 130... for some reason it sounded much better when Buddy was using it. I'd have called Peavey to complain!
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Apr 16, 2021 9:35:27 GMT -5
It was a Peavey Special 130... for some reason it sounded much better when Buddy was using it. I'd have called Peavey to complain! Well, realistically, I'd have to also call Gibson, Fender, Reverend, Vox, Traynor ...... the list goes on. They all sound better when other people play them. Now that think about it, I think all my gear is broken actually.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Apr 16, 2021 9:41:56 GMT -5
Apparently, I don't view things the same as most people. IMO, a guitar is a tool used to make music. Just because a "Star" owned a certain guitar doesn't make it worth thousands more than the exact same model owned by Joe Schmo. Now, I do think it's reasonable to pay a little more if you're a fan of that artist. Oh, but that guitar was used to record these Classic hits, you say? So what! The priceless, everlasting treasure is the song itself; not the tool used to make it. When I visited the Louvre in Paris, the paintbrush used wasn't on display next to the Mona Lisa. The best example of this for me has been the Van Halen Frankenstein. I haven't played the original but have played countless replicas and heard plenty of rants about the original. Talk about a guitar with zero magic on its own and is a total piece of crap! That said, as a music industry professional, I'm 110% for archaeology and understanding what made old sounds so good. There definitely was a way of making great instruments and then suddenly we couldn't get out of our own ways to make them nearly as good again after that. The paint brush doesn't belong in the Louvre, but it needs to be considered deeply by art historians and students everywhere. Even if we decide that the brush was a piece of crap and inferior to virtually any other brush out there. In fact, keeping the brush around might be important for that reason alone, lest crappy painters in the 21st century keep saying to themselves "sure, I could paint like that if I had brushes like they had then! You can't get 'em anymore."
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Post by mroulier on Apr 16, 2021 10:11:08 GMT -5
I have a Fender black hardcase that was allegedly used by the guitar player in the Toadies (one hit wonder song: "Possum Kingdom" from 1995). They spray painted over the logo... I paid "normal" price for it on Ebay. If I ever sell it, I'll share the story, which may or may not even be true!!
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Post by Think Floyd on Apr 16, 2021 12:12:09 GMT -5
Apparently, I don't view things the same as most people. IMO, a guitar is a tool used to make music. Just because a "Star" owned a certain guitar doesn't make it worth thousands more than the exact same model owned by Joe Schmo. Now, I do think it's reasonable to pay a little more if you're a fan of that artist. Oh, but that guitar was used to record these Classic hits, you say? So what! The priceless, everlasting treasure is the song itself; not the tool used to make it. When I visited the Louvre in Paris, the paintbrush used wasn't on display next to the Mona Lisa. The best example of this for me has been the Van Halen Frankenstein. I haven't played the original but have played countless replicas and heard plenty of rants about the original. Talk about a guitar with zero magic on its own and is a total piece of crap! That said, as a music industry professional, I'm 110% for archaeology and understanding what made old sounds so good. There definitely was a way of making great instruments and then suddenly we couldn't get out of our own ways to make them nearly as good again after that. The paint brush doesn't belong in the Louvre, but it needs to be considered deeply by art historians and students everywhere. Even if we decide that the brush was a piece of crap and inferior to virtually any other brush out there. In fact, keeping the brush around might be important for that reason alone, lest crappy painters in the 21st century keep saying to themselves "sure, I could paint like that if I had brushes like they had then! You can't get 'em anymore." I completely understand the historical aspect of these things, and what we can learn from them. However, I view them as having educational value, not monetary value.
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Post by rok-a-bill-e on Apr 16, 2021 12:42:02 GMT -5
Celebrity status has some value, even if it shows how shallow we are. I mean, there is a '57 T-Bird and then there is a 57 T-Bird once owned by Marylin Monroe. Which would you rather own? If only want transportation, then neither of them, but most of us buy beyond our basic needs, and status always plays a part. This salesman understands Pride of Ownership is a major factor in convincing people to part with their dollars.
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Post by LVF on Apr 16, 2021 13:52:54 GMT -5
I'm happy to say that most...all of my guitars have been handled and played by Joe Schmo.
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Apr 16, 2021 14:20:51 GMT -5
Mine have been played by me....that means a lot to me.
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Post by hushnel on Apr 16, 2021 14:39:53 GMT -5
I had Chuck Rainey, Victor, Roy and Holly Wooten, Anthony Wellington, Steve Bailey along with a couple other iconic musicians sign my home made bass when I was up at the Bass and Nature week at Victors and Holly’s wilderness property. It made the bass more valuable to me because of the memories. I have to say that the bass sounds much better now, but that has more to do with what I learned from these guys. flic.kr/p/KtxQWh
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Post by rok-a-bill-e on Apr 16, 2021 15:16:07 GMT -5
I know a guy who has Paul McCartney's autograph on the front of his Martin acoustic. It looks awful but I would imagine that the value has increased.
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Post by mcrofutt on Apr 18, 2021 17:21:44 GMT -5
My 65 Super Reverb (I'm the original owner) has been played thru by Taj Mahal and Michael Bolton.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Apr 18, 2021 17:43:09 GMT -5
Ace Frehley played my ‘78 Strat, said he liked it but he was sticking with Les Pauls.
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Post by langford on Apr 19, 2021 15:39:49 GMT -5
I know a guy who has Paul McCartney's autograph on the front of his Martin acoustic. It looks awful but I would imagine that the value has increased. Speaking for myself, if I wanted Paul's autograph, I'd rather have it on a piece of paper. I don't like the way autographed guitars look, period. (P.S. Hushnel gets a pass from me. He got the signatures as mementos from great experience. That's different.)
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