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Post by Vibroluxer on Jun 12, 2021 15:54:05 GMT -5
Well that about sums it up. I am not a lover of jazz to by any means but I find this guy really intriguing. I cannot explain a single musical thing that he played. I understand other than he rips through chords and just has this personality about him musically that it's beyond all means.
So here's the scoop. Tell me what you know or like about Charlie Parker and then please post a link to a jazz song that you like whether it be Charlie or not and there you have it that's my thread for today. It's 5 eastern daylight time in Pittsburgh.
Btw, this tune, to me, sounds nothing like Bird.
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Post by matryx81 on Jun 12, 2021 16:45:14 GMT -5
I think I have driven by the lot where his birth house used to stand a number of times. The office at my place of employment is not too far away from there.
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Post by jazzguy on Jun 12, 2021 17:09:24 GMT -5
The greatest improviser in jazz history though his demons got the best of him @ 34. I'll post more later when I get time.
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Post by Taildragger on Jun 12, 2021 18:00:28 GMT -5
Other than more pop/sound-track-oriented composers like Mancini and Nelson Riddle, I think he, Brubeck and Cal Tjader were some of the first jazz players I ever heard. They led me to explore the Prestige, Riverside and Blue note catalogs. My older brother brought home a Charlie Parker LP when I was a pre-teen.
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Post by michael on Jun 12, 2021 21:34:02 GMT -5
i've always loved his tone, i think that's what a saxophone should sound like. i enjoy him most of the time, but there's a point when to me, it becomes squawks and squeeks rather than music. i'm not really a BeBop fan
i LOVE this tune... Etta James - MY FUNNY VALENTINE When i first heard it i was only half listening and i subconsciously thought oh my, that voice is really pitchy... then i began to focus and i loved it. i can play over and over. i have about everything she recorded i believe.
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Post by MoJoe on Jun 12, 2021 23:19:08 GMT -5
Same as RB at 3:15 in the clip below: 😏
Double like for the post above, having seen EJ live once. The Best!
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Post by roly on Jun 13, 2021 3:48:47 GMT -5
I don't know the title of the recording of Parker and his band at Massey Hall in Toronto, but it should be easy to track down, it's stellar. "Hot Air" is a weekly CBC radio jazz broadcast and they dedicated the entire program to all things Parker on the anniversary of his birthday earlier this year.
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Post by Opie on Jun 13, 2021 6:01:01 GMT -5
Love me some Parker,especialy with Tiny Grimes.
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Post by NoSoapRadio on Jun 13, 2021 12:53:46 GMT -5
I think it's hard for most of us to appreciate Parker's contribution because we are more familiar with the music of the musicians that he inspired. It's a bold statement to say that without Parker we might not have the likes of Miles and Coltrane, who were geniuses in their own right (IMO) -- but Parker cleared the path that led to Hard Bop. What Charlie Parker did had never been done before.
Bird is at a disadvantage in relating to modern consumers in that most of what survives of his work was recorded only a few years before technology made the quantum leap into hi fidelity -- his recordings just don't sound very good. Add to that he usually played the alto sax which is not always a pleasure to listen to when it's abused the way he played it. At that time he wasn't playing to an auditorium of white folks who sat quietly while he wailed. His audience was mostly young black people in crowded dance clubs and he was there to show them a good time -- which by all accounts he did.
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Post by Harleyboy on Jun 14, 2021 21:00:07 GMT -5
Nicely said NoSoap..
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Post by Blacksunshine on Jun 14, 2021 21:51:40 GMT -5
I dig him! There just happens to be a Donna Lee thread going on right now in the Performer's Forum.
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Post by Blacksunshine on Jun 14, 2021 21:53:38 GMT -5
Joe Pass and NHOP doing "Donna Lee."
Click if you dare!
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Post by tahitijack on Jun 15, 2021 13:07:06 GMT -5
My favorite is Grover Washington, Jr. To me he was to sax what Wes was to guitar. He was not afraid to lean into new jazz concepts. We miss you Grover...play Winelight.... done.
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Post by satele on Jun 17, 2021 0:00:16 GMT -5
At a music course, I studied at a Further Education facility, one of the "exercises" was to learn as much of "Billies' Bounce" as we could...to be "appraised" at the end of the term. I learnt the first three choruses, sort of....the lecturer wasn't too harsh on me, but I know I'm no Charlie Parker!! It was a great learning experience; reading the dots, etc.,
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Post by Vibroluxer on Jun 17, 2021 9:15:10 GMT -5
This is from Bird With Strings. Afaik he only ventured into more commercial music just the one time.
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Post by jazzguy on Jun 17, 2021 12:06:42 GMT -5
Slim Gaillard's Jam we get to hear Bird's voice on this one, and listen to that alto soar!
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Post by Vibroluxer on Jun 17, 2021 16:03:53 GMT -5
i've always loved his tone, i think that's what a saxophone should sound like. i enjoy him most of the time, but there's a point when to me, it becomes squawks and squeeks rather than music. i'm not really a BeBop fan i LOVE this tune... Etta James - MY FUNNY VALENTINE When i first heard it i was only half listening and i subconsciously thought oh my, that voice is really pitchy... then i began to focus and i loved it. i can play over and over. i have about everything she recorded i believe. I never heard of her until I watched the Muscle Shoals doc. It's worth watching. Free with ads.
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Post by langford on Jun 17, 2021 16:17:01 GMT -5
I'm into Charlie Parker. I love the flow of his lines through the changes, especially those upper structure arpeggios (at least, that's what I think they are.) It's beautiful music, period. But it's also very cool to look at how Parker built on traditional concepts to create new sounds/music. I know he's not alone in this, but I also admire how absorbed the "how" of music to the degree that he really could forget it and just blow. A wonderful musical imagination.
My link is to Benny Goodman/Charlie Christian for "Wholly Cats." The head on this tune is one of my favourite lines, ever.
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Post by rok-a-bill-e on Jun 17, 2021 17:45:20 GMT -5
NEVER HEARD OF ETTA JAMES? Oh wow, one of the greatest female soul singers out there! "I'd Rather Go Blind" is her classic but that is a deep well. We have an Etta James channel on Pandora. Well worth checking out. Then do Mavis Staples, another jewel whose best work came out of Muscle Shoals.
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Post by Vibroluxer on Jun 17, 2021 17:51:44 GMT -5
NEVER HEARD OF ETTA JAMES? Oh wow, one of the greatest female soul singers out there! "I'd Rather Go Blind" is her classic but that is a deep well. We have an Etta James channel on Pandora. Well worth checking out. Then do Mavis Staples, another jewel whose best work came out of Muscle Shoals. lol, yep, not until I saw the MuShoals doc. That was 5 yrs ago. Thanks for the tip on the Mighty Mavis, I do know of her. I 1st heard The Staples when I saw the Last Waltz. That was nearly 40 yrs ago.
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Post by satele on Jun 21, 2021 18:21:11 GMT -5
Sat down with one of my TAFE guitar lecturers, yesterday. I still catch up with him on a regular basis, and even play in one of his bands--filling in for their guitarist who's pretty crook at the moment. Anyway, talk turned to Bird and we started on this one! Not crazy hard, but enough to twist my little mind....the bebop phrasing and getting the fingers to go where you want 'em to...
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Post by michael on Jun 22, 2021 20:59:14 GMT -5
i've always loved his tone, i think that's what a saxophone should sound like. i enjoy him most of the time, but there's a point when to me, it becomes squawks and squeeks rather than music. i'm not really a BeBop fan i LOVE this tune... Etta James - MY FUNNY VALENTINE When i first heard it i was only half listening and i subconsciously thought oh my, that voice is really pitchy... then i began to focus and i loved it. i can play over and over. i have about everything she recorded i believe. I never heard of her until I watched the Muscle Shoals doc. It's worth watching. Free with ads. many thanks for reminding me of this program. i've seen bits and pieces of it but have never had the chance to see it all. i've shared this link with all my band buddies...
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