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Post by Mfitz804 on Jun 25, 2021 12:39:26 GMT -5
Saw this in the store this morning. Cannot figure out why I would need to pay a premium for this, above and beyond the premium I’m already paying if I am buying bottled water.
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Post by Taildragger on Jun 25, 2021 12:43:19 GMT -5
Being a "plant-based" organism myself, I find your taxonomic bias highly offensive.
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Post by Leftee on Jun 25, 2021 12:44:38 GMT -5
I’m waiting for the solar system based products.
Especially the ones from… well… you know.
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Post by gato on Jun 25, 2021 12:47:45 GMT -5
When do you stop squeezing a piece of fruit or a vegetable to turn it into water instead of juice?
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jun 25, 2021 13:03:33 GMT -5
I'd be curious if they use their own water in their manufacturing plants and distribution centers. Specifically, how much municipal water or water drawn from private wells go into making one bottle. Speaking of bottles, are those plastic?
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Post by Taildragger on Jun 25, 2021 13:05:23 GMT -5
If a piece of fruit gets squeezed in a forest and there's nobody there to hear it go *squish*...
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jun 25, 2021 13:44:28 GMT -5
I'd be curious if they use their own water in their manufacturing plants and distribution centers. Specifically, how much municipal water or water drawn from private wells go into making one bottle. Speaking of bottles, are those plastic? These particular bottles were glass. Or plant-based glass, not sure.
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Post by Taildragger on Jun 25, 2021 13:49:13 GMT -5
I'd be curious if they use their own water in their manufacturing plants and distribution centers. Specifically, how much municipal water or water drawn from private wells go into making one bottle. Speaking of bottles, are those plastic? These particular bottles were glass. Or plant-based glass, not sure. Possibly made of asparaglass...
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Post by Leftee on Jun 25, 2021 13:58:34 GMT -5
Possibly made of asparaglass... 🏆
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Post by ninworks on Jun 25, 2021 13:58:49 GMT -5
As long as there are gullible people there will be others taking advantage of them.
No matter how opposed someone is to eating meat products they all wish they could or else there wouldn't be faux burgers and such. If they didn't want meat there would be none of that. There are some people who cannot eat meat or it makes them ill. I excuse them but they are usually not the ones screaming and pointing their fingers at the carnivors.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jun 25, 2021 14:03:03 GMT -5
These particular bottles were glass. Or plant-based glass, not sure. Possibly made of asparaglass... Well played.
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Post by hushnel on Jun 25, 2021 15:25:49 GMT -5
Not very efficient I imagine, how much water does it take to grow a plant that can be processed into a bottle of water.
I do like plant based meat.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jun 25, 2021 15:36:47 GMT -5
A small town Canadian entrepreneur I know tried a variety of things since I've known him from the 60's. Hotelier, crooner, restaurateur, gas station owner. In his small roadside motel he dug a deep well to accommodate his guests, who started raving about how wonderful the water was. He now has fleet of trucks that deliver his bottled water throughout several Provinces.
Hushnel, I can see it now "Wellborn Pure Aquifer". 😄
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Post by langford on Jun 25, 2021 15:40:18 GMT -5
I was puzzled by this, so I did a bit of Googling. At first glance, it's not as goofy as it looks, although the "plant-based" branding is really confusing.
The point is to capture water that's otherwise dumped in food production (juices, sauces, sugar refining etc.) and filter it as a potable product. The concept was developed by an Australian chemist named Bruce Kambouris. His company is a commercial venture (obviously), but Kamboulis talks a lot about its tech as something that can help in areas where drinking water is hard to come by.
I don't doubt his social-enterprise ambitions, but we'll see. The benefit of the water is that it's reducing the amount of water that otherwise goes to waste. That the tech may help with water-access issues is good, too. But, man, I think that "plant-based" branding is going to hurt them. It just sounds so stupid. A lot of people are going to simply walk away.
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Post by hushnel on Jun 26, 2021 11:13:15 GMT -5
Hushnel, I can see it now "Wellborn Pure Aquifer". 😄 Bottling spring water is going on in a couple of the counties on the Ichnetucky Aquifer, three or four national brands of bottled water come from here. The depth of my well all I’d have to do is apply for the licenses. I flush four or 5 bottles of it every time I hit the Head. We have springs all over the county. I have a small one in the back of my property.
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Post by fkaJimmySee on Jun 26, 2021 12:26:32 GMT -5
Wisconsin is heading toward passing a bill into law that would require a beverage to come from an animal with hooves to be labelled "milk" in the state. If it were to become law, no more soy, almond, oat, etc etc etc so-called "milk" in America's Dairyland.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jun 26, 2021 12:30:40 GMT -5
But, man, I think that "plant-based" branding is going to hurt them. It just sounds so stupid. A lot of people are going to simply walk away. That’s my main objection to it. It’s just gone too far, you don’t need to market water this way. I don’t eat plant based meat. If I don’t want meat, I eat something that isn’t meat, not something masquerading as meat. Ooh, new plant based meat brand: Meatsquerade!
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Post by hushnel on Jun 26, 2021 14:58:31 GMT -5
I know, like my non-edible plant based tires. Maybe they could make milk out of all the used ones.
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Post by langford on Jun 26, 2021 16:56:23 GMT -5
@mfitz... Agreed. The point of the process is to manage water scarcity issues. They're selling water conservation. Cashing in on the plant-based fashion makes it sound like something entirely different. It's confusing and deeply off-putting. These guys are shooting themselves in the foot (feet?) with an idea that might actually have some value. Sad.
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Post by JDC on Jun 26, 2021 18:00:08 GMT -5
Not very efficient I imagine, how much water does it take to grow a plant that can be processed into a bottle of water. Yep. Seems like there ought to be a law of diminishing returns in there somewhere.
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Post by langford on Jun 26, 2021 20:00:21 GMT -5
JDC... That's the question I wonder about. I think this idea is interesting, but I'm not convinced its practical. I imagine there's a significant volume of water in the plant waste in industrial food production, at least in absolute terms. But many tonnes of plant matter do you need to process to reclaim a gallon of water. I'm also not so sure about the company's claims their tech can benefit water-poor regions. I don't imagine there's a lot of water in husks and stalks of plants that grow in arid areas.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Jun 27, 2021 5:37:39 GMT -5
I'm working on the development of meat-based plants because they say vegetables are good for you, but I'd rather eat a steak.
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Post by hushnel on Jun 27, 2021 10:11:30 GMT -5
Basically we have the same amount of water as we’ve always had.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Jun 27, 2021 16:53:27 GMT -5
Are they saying "plant based" because they're selling the idea that it has extra nutrients like coconut water? Yeah, that's a bit nutty.
Only slightly related: Recently I learned that when people talk about a high figure of how much water goes into raising beef, 94% of what they're talking about is just rain water that falls anywhere on the farm land.
Raising high amounts of veggies, especially when you're trying to make high-protein foods, uses way more water and often from outside sources (not rain water), so this might actually be a great idea.
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Post by K4 on Jun 27, 2021 18:41:44 GMT -5
"Our Fats Cocoa Butter • Coconut Oil • Expeller-Pressed Canola Oil (uses pressure, not chemicals)"
I try to stay away from hydrogenated oils, so no way will I ever knowingly eat plant based meat.
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Post by hushnel on Jun 28, 2021 8:35:10 GMT -5
Beef is pretty much plant based.
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Post by K4 on Jun 28, 2021 13:40:05 GMT -5
Beef is pretty much plant based. Right you are. I'll have to amend my statement. I will not knowingly eat man made plant based meat. Nature made, IE a cow eating corn and turning that into meat, is fine.
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Post by hushnel on Jun 28, 2021 14:24:09 GMT -5
Beef is pretty much plant based. Right you are. I'll have to amend my statement. I will not knowingly eat man made plant based meat. Nature made, IE a cow eating corn and turning that into meat, is fine. Amen brother.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jun 28, 2021 17:01:18 GMT -5
Beef is pretty much plant based. Right you are. I'll have to amend my statement. I will not knowingly eat man made plant based meat. Nature made, IE a cow eating corn and turning that into meat, is fine. Now technically, don’t the cow parents make the meat, and the corn just feeds the meat and makes it bigger? I’ll eat the cow parents and their children.
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Post by hushnel on Jun 29, 2021 8:33:09 GMT -5
Certainly, at least in the initial stage of production “o)
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