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Post by surfinboy on Aug 4, 2021 22:07:36 GMT -5
With apologies for sounding anal, do folks have advice for tearing down/packing up equipment efficiently at the end of a gig? I'm in a wedding band and I have to bring 2-3 guitars, 2 amps, pedals, stands, and other assorted cables and crap to every date. I've got a rolling cart and try to stay organized but it always seems to take forever.
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Post by Pinetree on Aug 4, 2021 22:50:13 GMT -5
I have a plastic tote box with a lid that snaps on.. it's great for tossing cables, guitar straps, etc inside.
Pedalboard is a Pedaltrain, which comes with a soft case.. keeps the settings intact, and is easy to carry.
Making a snake for your cables with either zip ties or gaffer's tape helps consolidate everything.
As much as I enjoy taking two amplifiers and playing in stereo, I've kind of gotten away from it in my old age.
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Post by argo on Aug 7, 2021 14:15:49 GMT -5
I use a rubber maid tote also and a home made effects pedal case with 2 amps. At the end of the night I give it the bums rush, throw everything that is mine, into what is mine, where ever I can. But I happen to enjoy going through my stuff later at my leisure.
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Post by Marty Small on Aug 8, 2021 19:55:27 GMT -5
I’m very anal retentive about my cords. I don’t let anyone roll any of the cords.
As far as organization, I use 4 medium size pelican cases for cords. Each case is labeled by type and length of cable (50’ XLR, 15’-30’ XLR, 1/4”, Power Cables).
All cables have the length labeled on both ends along with the intended use (Base DI, Keys, Kick, etc). All DMX are color coded for the Par they plug into. PA XLR and Power are labeled and are stored in their respective speaker bag. Everything has wheels (it definitely helps for those long load-ins).
My guitar rig is based around a cart that holds my electric amp on top and the acoustic amp on the bottom. The cart also has 3 guitar hangers and a mandolin hanger. I made a skirt to hide the acoustic amp (but rarely use it). I have a large power strip mounted inside my electric amp and all my guitar stuff plugs into their assigned (and labeled) spots. I designed this rig so I could assemble everything at the side of the stage and then just roll it into place. It is also very easy to move my rig when I need to get behind it. My signal runs DI from my pedalboard, so there are no mics on the amps (amps are just monitors for the band and don’t point at the audience). Cables from the board to amp is a 3 cable loom (XLR, 1/4”, Power).
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Post by mroulier on Aug 9, 2021 12:43:25 GMT -5
I put a strip of highly visible duct tape on one end of my cables. That keeps "my" cables easily ID'd from the conglomeration of "band" cables. I use yellow and/or neon green. Besides my bass gear, I'm providing XLR's for vocals and other monitor hookups to get from one side of the stage to the other.
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Post by gdw3 on Aug 9, 2021 15:18:41 GMT -5
I’m very anal retentive about my cords. I don’t let anyone roll any of the cords. Same!
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Post by tahitijack on Aug 10, 2021 18:27:15 GMT -5
I start packing the high value gear first. Guitars in cases or gig bags, amps in covers and set where I can see them while everything else gets rounded up and stashed in tote bags with the few peddles I use. I also like to sort out the stuff in the tote bags the next day. I do like the idea of tape around the cable ends, but have never lost one on a gig.
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Post by larryguitar54 on Aug 10, 2021 19:57:31 GMT -5
I don't have that many gigs lately with Covid so it's not a huge issue. I generally bring 2 of everything because I'm worried about getting there and something fails. But I have developed a system to actually only unpack one gig chain and leave the rest on the truck in case of a breakdown.
If it's an important gig then I will get there early and set up both rigs in tandem A/B.
As I get older I do find the more critical problem is that after I set up my rig I need at least 45 minutes rest before I am ready to play. I just don't have the stamina to be my own roadie and then jump on stage and perform.
If I get to the gig and unload and set everything up and huff and puff---especially in the hot Florida sun--- I am liable to stroke out by the third song. If I had my druthers I would bring a cot and find a quiet place to lay down or something.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Aug 11, 2021 11:17:16 GMT -5
The first thing I usually did was to go and find the lead vocalist, interrupt his conversation with the two lovely young ladies and ask him if he needed help packing up his microphone and harmonica.
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Post by Grizbear-NJ on Aug 11, 2021 11:54:14 GMT -5
I have to jump in here, with my drummers point of view. "Anal" is probably the best description regarding the system I utilize, with both "set-up" and "break-down".
Everything I use is in cases or bags. At my age, I can't emphasize enough, the importance of "WHEELS"!
First off; I have a carpet (Home Depot Special) which is the first thing I set in place. At this point I am very flexible, allowing other musicians (or soundmen) to determine the placement of the previously mentioned carpet. After that; "STAY AWAY", I got it!
I utilize a "rack system": because it eliminates multiple stands and actually has a smaller, overall, "stage footprint". The rack system I use is heavily equipped with "Memori-Locs" and cuts my set up time in half; regardless of what drum set-up I use. (NOTE: I always per-determine, in advance, to see what set-up I will need, and use.)
My Theory: Because I am always in the back line; I will be the first one in to set-up, and the last one to break-down, and out. I plan accordingly.
When I break down; I wait until the "front line" has cleared most of their equipment away. I then open my cases, and start to dismantle my drum "set up"; putting the pieces into the designated cases or bags. "NO BODY" touches a case or bag until I close it. At that point I will always accept help, transporting the gear to my vehicle. I am constantly counting the pieces, the bags & cases to make sure I have everything. (Including the carpet)
Upon completion; an "Adult Beverage" is always welcomed!
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Aug 13, 2021 11:18:50 GMT -5
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Post by Davywhizz on Aug 14, 2021 4:36:44 GMT -5
Our band always had an extra person to mix the live sound and lights and help with setting up and packing down. We developed a good system over the years, but some band members were more useful than others. We had one keyboard player who would unplug someone else's amp or a lighting unit so he could plug himself in.
In the set up, we'd generally lay out all the mains boards and extensions first, while a couple of others set up the backdrop, PA and lighting stands. Someone else would be laying the multicore to the mixer out front. The drummer could start setting up the kit once the backdrop was up...everyone eventually got used to doing things in the right order.
Packing up included rolling all cables properly (so they don't become twisted over time) and they were colour-coded, with different lengths/types kept together in bags within the trunks. Everything was supposed to arrive at the truck in the right order for loading.
You need to keep an eye on security as well as efficient packing. We'd leave instrument cases, pedal boards etc where we could see them, usually stacked on the stage, and there was always someone at the truck when it was open. We'd clear the dressing room last and do a final sweep of the stage and mixer area on the way out.
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Post by Leftee on Aug 14, 2021 9:49:42 GMT -5
I’m thinking this is a robot-ready job… with the taser option to stop thieves in their tracks.
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Post by mikem on Aug 16, 2021 20:14:33 GMT -5
for my mic cables when I provide sound for bands. I have three of them; 1 reel of 50's plus two reels of 25/30's. I mark the male-end barrel of each mic cable with its length; 25/30/50. Each reel of 25/30's holds seven cables (all connected). The roll of 50's has four cables.
I also have a 5 mic cable (marked A through E) "loom" that I roll-out across the front of a stage. Deploying mic cable is a snap, just set three reels on a sub and peel-off what I need. At the end of a gig I just roll-em up.
The only time that I need to be extra careful with the reels is when I do outdoor gigs in colder (below 50 degree) weather as the plastic gets brittle.
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Post by Laker on Aug 19, 2021 12:14:28 GMT -5
With apologies for sounding anal, do folks have advice for tearing down/packing up equipment efficiently at the end of a gig? I'm in a wedding band and I have to bring 2-3 guitars, 2 amps, pedals, stands, and other assorted cables and crap to every date. I've got a rolling cart and try to stay organized but it always seems to take forever. I don’t know how much I can help you, but one thing I’d suggest is integration of your equipment. Reduce the number of individual cords you have to carry/plug-in, utilize one stand to hold multiple guitars, etc. A friend even had his mic stand modified so it plugged into his pedal board and was collapsible for transport.
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Post by rickyguitar on Aug 19, 2021 15:06:50 GMT -5
Used to use old army footlocker. Heavy cables in the bottom...lighter stuff in the tray. And never let strangers help!
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Post by stykkyd on Nov 9, 2021 10:06:57 GMT -5
With apologies for sounding anal, do folks have advice for tearing down/packing up equipment efficiently at the end of a gig? I'm in a wedding band and I have to bring 2-3 guitars, 2 amps, pedals, stands, and other assorted cables and crap to every date. I've got a rolling cart and try to stay organized but it always seems to take forever. Double-sided Velcro is a boon - buy rolls in 25mm and 50mm widths and cut to length to hold loops of cables together. Leave wrapped around the cable when in use so they don't get lost during the gig. Throw most loose stuff quickly into those big tough plastic boxes, and resign yourself to sorting out the next day, as you will be too busy chatting with all those fans as you pack up to do it tidily!
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Post by hushnel on Nov 15, 2021 13:46:26 GMT -5
For most bar type gigs I’ve got it down to one trip. Bass with cords in the gigbag pocket, canvas open top tool bag with the stompbox on/off tuner, Genz Benz shuttle 9.0, spare tools and cords, and the SWR Golight 2X10 (400 watts) speaker cab @ 38lbs. One trip. I have a PA too but I’ve not had to use it for a about 4 of 5 years.
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Post by tahitijack on Nov 17, 2021 17:23:23 GMT -5
In my next life I'm going to play bass. Every band I've been in the bass player is the fastest set up and teardown. Bass amp, one cord, bass. Beautifully simple.
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Post by matryx81 on Nov 20, 2021 14:27:50 GMT -5
Every band I've been in the bass player is the fastest set up and teardown. Bass amp, one cord, bass. Beautifully simple. As a bassist, I would like to say that this is true sometimes. Sometimes, it is not.
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Post by ninworks on Nov 20, 2021 15:34:02 GMT -5
In my next life I'm coming back as a harmonica player. Show up 5 minutes before the gig and be gone by the time the last crash cymbal on the last song of the night has decayed. Worst case, I might have to bring a microphone.
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Post by twangmeister on Feb 7, 2022 20:22:42 GMT -5
Every band I played in packed their instruments/drum kit, pedals and amps first, them moved on to the PA and lighting.
This was magnified when I played guitar in a 21 piece swing band. We had charts, stands or music stands as well. We loaded band gear into a big box trailer than took our personal gear/charts to our own vehicles. I appreciate the time that the saxes, trumpets, trombones, vocalits and the URB player put in during the teardown and loadout. We all left the venue when everything was done.
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