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Post by cedarchoper58 on Aug 5, 2021 17:29:51 GMT -5
i have two strats a 57 and a 62 one has 5 springs the other 3 springs. They are set up the same the claw screws are set diffently from each othere so that both decked to barley touching the body. The string heith is the same on both The one with 5 springs is easier to bend strings why would this be? thks
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Post by pdf64 on Aug 5, 2021 18:21:26 GMT -5
There’s lots of factors involved.
eg even if both trems were blocked, any 2 guitars would still feel different, due to slight differences in eg fret height, fret profile, fingerboard material / finish, fingerboard camber, neck profile.
And, err, do both guitars have the exact same type of strings fitted?
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Post by cedarchoper58 on Aug 5, 2021 18:48:38 GMT -5
There’s lots of factors involved. eg even if both trems were blocked, any 2 guitars would still feel different, due to slight differences in eg fret height, fret profile, fingerboard material / finish, fingerboard camber, neck profile. And, err, do both guitars have the exact same type of strings fitted? they both have orginal springs from the 57 and 62. The 62 has 3 springs and the 57 has 5 springs. 57 is maple board 62 is rose wood which is much smoother to play where as the 57 is sticky because of the finish and the 57 is easier to bend. 62 has large wide jumbo style fretts and 57 has orginal thin fretts. it seems like the tall wide 62 would be easier but maybe the thin orginal fenders are easier. They are both are decked till they just touch the body (the 62 is screwed in farther to the body but has 3 springs) so the total spring tension should be the same on both even though the 62 has 3 springs and the 57 has 5 springs. They both lift the bridge as you bend the strings so the tension is identical theoretcly |
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Post by pdf64 on Aug 6, 2021 3:45:16 GMT -5
Do both have the exact same make and type of string fitted?
Whatever, it’s a simple experiment to block the trem, either with a suitable piece of wood, or just screw the spring claw in a bit further, such that the bridge stays clamped flat against the body no matter how hard you bend the strings.
That takes the springs out of the picture as far as string bending goes.
So after that, any difference in apparent string tension must be due to the other stuff.
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Post by cedarchoper58 on Aug 6, 2021 16:52:30 GMT -5
same strings
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Post by reverendrob on Aug 10, 2021 14:57:53 GMT -5
All I have to say on Strat springs is ...  Came across my desk at the gun shop back in the day, one of those Danos with built-in FX. I had to take a picture for posterity. It bent like NO other. |
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Post by pdf64 on Aug 10, 2021 18:29:18 GMT -5
Wow, that’s different! Someone’s been thinking outside the box  |
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Post by Leftee on Aug 10, 2021 18:37:30 GMT -5
Why didn’t the D string get a spring? It seems so unfair.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Aug 10, 2021 19:34:38 GMT -5
The springs will only affect how slinky it feels when bending if the bridge is floating. If it floats then you have to tug the string further to hit a given pitch because the bridge is flattening the pitch as you're raising it with the bend. That could be why 5 springs feels easier to you, because you're bending more string than string and springs. You can do a little experiment - same fret, same string, same bend distance, and watch how high the bridge comes up between the two guitars.
That said, I'd guess it is other factors more than the springs. Simple neck geometry changes can make you grip the neck in a different way and make some feel way more slinky than others.
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Post by reverendrob on Aug 11, 2021 13:18:14 GMT -5
Why didn’t the D string get a spring? It seems so unfair. I'm guessing that somehow, someway, they didn't replace that string? |
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Post by jefe46 on Aug 11, 2021 20:20:00 GMT -5
My 1976 Hard Tail one piece body came with an envelope containing the springs. Part of the case candy.
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