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Post by De ville on Sept 24, 2021 16:38:49 GMT -5
The guitar was shipped with the jimmy stick in place. During transport, the block blew out. This is an early 90's Korean made Fender Stratocaster - Squier series. This one is a 1993 model, IIRC. Maui Blue.
I have a tendency to keep things as original as possible. I get along good enough with the stock bridges, so I wouldn't probably need to change the spec to something superior for my needs, unless you twist my arm.
What direction should I go for replacing the block. I think it's cast iron. It's cast something.
I have considered welding it up, but cast is a PITB to weld, and it may be painted or plated in something as well. Welding it may not even be an option.
What should I look for? Do I need a Fender block, or a Squier block? I'll post photos if needed.
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Post by Leftee on Sept 24, 2021 16:46:40 GMT -5
What’s the steing spread of the bridge?
So… I have a story along these lines. I recently bought a budget Schecter with a FR. I asked the seller to remove the trem arm before shipping. He asked, “you mean the whammy bar?” I said yes.
He removed the entire trem - and left the arm in place.
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Post by De ville on Sept 24, 2021 17:13:54 GMT -5
2-7/32
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Sept 24, 2021 18:54:05 GMT -5
Cast iron doesn't seem likely - a cast misc metal is more likely. It sounds like you know metal pretty well so I'll assume your guess is better than mine.
If you think you can force it back into place with some clamps, a slow set epoxy could be an option as well. Clamp it up with some block and wax paper in such a way that you can clean it up before it sets (especially around threads) and you might have some good luck.
For replacement, you'll just have to make some very careful measurements and do some shopping. The wider spacing doesn't seem likely to me, but it is possible, especially since those also had a wider nut than you'd expect. Also, the spacing on the mounting holes isn't going to be guaranteed to be anything like universal. If you get a larger block, you may need to trim up the cavity a bit, too. Is that a Squier II? I had one of those about that long ago.
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Post by De ville on Sept 24, 2021 20:10:01 GMT -5
It reminds me of pot metal, but it's heavy. I'll post photos.
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Post by Leftee on Sept 24, 2021 20:16:20 GMT -5
Could it be 2 3/16”?
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Post by De ville on Sept 24, 2021 20:18:29 GMT -5
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Post by Leftee on Sept 24, 2021 20:25:28 GMT -5
If it were mine I wouldn’t try to salvage it. It looks pretty roached.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Sept 25, 2021 0:56:55 GMT -5
That's a cast zinc block. Not impossible to find on Reverb and fleabay. Not expensive either.
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Post by Leftee on Sept 25, 2021 9:04:01 GMT -5
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Post by De ville on Sept 25, 2021 12:38:53 GMT -5
Looks to be 2-3/16 after a closer look. Thanks for the link.
Peegoo, thanks for that. It's curious why the old zinc block has so many cracks. Could be when to mojo came out.
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Post by Leftee on Sept 25, 2021 12:45:07 GMT -5
Mojo leaks are serious business.
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Post by De ville on Sept 25, 2021 13:33:20 GMT -5
Cast iron doesn't seem likely - a cast misc metal is more likely. It sounds like you know metal pretty well so I'll assume your guess is better than mine. If you think you can force it back into place with some clamps, a slow set epoxy could be an option as well. Clamp it up with some block and wax paper in such a way that you can clean it up before it sets (especially around threads) and you might have some good luck. For replacement, you'll just have to make some very careful measurements and do some shopping. The wider spacing doesn't seem likely to me, but it is possible, especially since those also had a wider nut than you'd expect. Also, the spacing on the mounting holes isn't going to be guaranteed to be anything like universal. If you get a larger block, you may need to trim up the cavity a bit, too. Is that a Squier II? I had one of those about that long ago. The left over pieces are basically crumbs.
I might jump on the one Leftee linked if it's the right width. I forgot to look. Anyways. This is a Fender Stratocaster "Squier Series". These were made in Mexico, Korea, and some say Japan. I have seen a couple MIJ examples, but I don't know if they were authentic.
There's actually some lore about these, but I don't know how much of it is true. Ironically people claim that back in the day, at the FDP when the fender executives were still around; it is said that one of the executives was asked about these guitars, and he said the bodies, and necks are MIA, and were shipped to these other countries for assembly with cheaper electronics, and labor.
Supposedly this was Fenders attempt at a guitar that was a Fender Stratocaster, and at lower price range. There's a few websites that suggest this.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Sept 25, 2021 15:00:07 GMT -5
For a while, US-made bodies and necks were trucked the short distance from California to Ensenada, Mexico for assembly there. That's probably what you recall. Shipping bodies and necks overseas for assembly would add costs that offset any savings in labor.
In 1982 when CBS sold Fender to new owners--Bill Schultz and several other Fender employees--the US factory was at a standstill. The new ownership engaged Fujigen in Japan (and later Tokai and Dyna) to make Fender Strats and Teles in the interim while the factory was re-tooled and the workforce trained to begin production anew. When the first Fujigen samples arrived, several reports from people in attendance stated the new owners had tears in their eyes when they saw the quality of the Japanese guitars. They were truly shocked, and a discussion commenced that centered around the problem of, "there is no way we can ever make them this good."
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Post by Wrnchbndr on Sept 27, 2021 12:15:27 GMT -5
Put the trem block into the glove compartment of your car and make a stop at every guitar shop you drive by.. This is going to be one of those things that no spec exists. Somebody has got one on an old rusty bridge.
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Post by De ville on Oct 1, 2021 14:18:09 GMT -5
Put the trem block into the glove compartment of your car and make a stop at every guitar shop you drive by.. This is going to be one of those things that no spec exists. Somebody has got one on an old rusty bridge. Spot on. The new cast block has spacing that is just a hair off. Enough that I can't mount the bridge to the block.
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