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Post by windmill on Oct 10, 2021 17:49:44 GMT -5
So, after the virus restrictions eased off a month or so ago, I have been going to band practice and jam sessions up to 4 times a week and learning new songs for each and other parts of life also resumed.
But this has meant I haven't continued the practice regime I was doing during the period of lockdown.
That was working through the Mickey Baker Jazz Guitar book 1 up to the single note section that is part 2 of the book, but as mentioned elsewhere, I had only worked the examples in the book and had not done the suggested transposing.
I realised that transposing is an important skill to learn. So back to the front of the book again and had completed the chordal section when the restrictions were lifted.
I had also started working on the Bass Playing video series on the Open Studio Jazz youtube channel.
During the year I simply stopped the sight reading exercises I had signed up for with the Sight Reading Factory. Instead the Bass lesson on Open Studio are all notation so I have been keeping up the reading.
All that fell by the wayside when the restrictions were lifted.
The new plan is -
Start the Mickey Baker book again, working through the exercises in several keys, 6 or 7, and constructing solos over each, also in the different keys, with the aim of improving my improvisational ability, which is near zero at the moment.
Resume the Open Studio bass lessons and particularly finish working through the "Walk Like.." series. This will also help my sight reading.
So how're you doing ?
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Post by ninworks on Oct 10, 2021 21:04:39 GMT -5
Since fall has arrived my things to do list has become less concentrated. The yard maintenance has eased a bit and I finished many projects this summer. Since then I have started back up with my practice regiment that I basically ended when everything started growing. I have reintroduced some of my technique practice routines as well as inserting more of my theoretical training into my guitar playing. Getting some of that stuff under my fingers has proven to be very time consuming. I spend about an hour working on technique and then put as much time into figuring out the shapes and picking techniques to put the theoretical stuff onto the fingerboard as I can. Some days minutes and some days hours. There's never enough time so all I can do is hammer on it when I can, for as long as I can, before some unwelcome distraction comes along to put an end to it.
One of these days there will be another album project for me to record guitar parts for from my old bandmate in Japan. He told me mid summer there would be another one coming in the Fall.
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Post by hushnel on Oct 12, 2021 10:57:28 GMT -5
Everyday I play the bass and the classical guitar. For the guitar I usually pick a song I have little chance of ever getting it, with enough work I usually do. I started doing this about 12 years ago with Hoagy Carmichael’s “Up the”Lazy River. The most recent is Chan Chan by Buena Vista Social Club, sounds great on the classical I’ve go the whole intro down, takes me a few tries to nail it though, eventually my fingers will remember the placement for these chords I’ve never used. The four finger permutations I’ve been running through since the week up in Nashville with Victor and Crew, this was one and Anthony Wellington’s exercises. Playing the first pattern on one string at the nut running up the neck one fret at a time as fast as I can, starting over again when I screw up. I do all the columns starting with the first finger, then the second column etc. When I started this exercise a few of them I couldn’t get the fingers to do, I hadn’t gotten the pattern muscle memory. It kind of cracked me up, I figured after all these years I could easily run through them. It did a lot for me, I even had this series of numbers made into a rubber stamp to put on the back of my calling cards.
I’m sure you guys will have no stumbles at all “o)
1234 2134 3124 4123 1243 2143 3142 4132 1324 2314 3214 4213 1342 2341 3241 4231 1423 2413 3412 4312 1432 2431 3421 4321
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Post by windmill on Dec 23, 2021 5:57:28 GMT -5
I thought I would look back and review how I was going with my practicing compared to the original post. Have continued working through the Mickey Baker book, transposing all the exercises into several keys and trying to come up with a solo over each piece, using the chord tones and alterations. Pleased with the progress so far, but am still in the front half the book. Have taken onbroad the lesson where he recommends playing the "jazz chords" to replace the normal, simple chords in songs. I have a Jazz Standards fake book that I brought for another purpose which I am working my way through doing as he suggested. Haven't kept up with the Open Studio Jazz lessons due to spending the time practicing songs for the various groups that I play with. Also I now have an ambition to get up and play bass at a local monthly Jazz jam night so I have an immediate goal of learning some of the tunes usually played there, like Blue Bossa, Blue Monk, All blues and the like. Haven't deviated too far from the goals I set with the practice regime, so pretty happy.
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Post by ninworks on Dec 23, 2021 10:21:43 GMT -5
I experimented with the finger calisthenics combinations years ago. I could see right away that in order to conquer it I would have to spend an inordinate amount of time working on it. I decided that my time would be better spent applying more theoretical knowledge to the construction of my playing than being able to execute any fingering combination possible. There were always going to be ones I either couldn't do at any level of speed or, at the least, ever do well. Most of which I would never use because they sounded awful. I didn't see the point in spending the time practicing something I would never use. Being primarily a flatpicker, the picking required to play some of them was so foreign to me that it would take me years of practice to ever get to some level of proficiency with them. I decided my time was better spent elsewhere developing things that I could either already execute or were within my grasp. I still practice technical things I can't play but those have musical applications to my style of playing and, to me, that is worthy of the time spent to accomplish them.
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Post by windmill on Dec 31, 2022 19:33:57 GMT -5
I thought I would look back and review how I was going with my practicing compared to the original post. Have continued working through the Mickey Baker book, transposing all the exercises into several keys and trying to come up with a solo over each piece, using the chord tones and alterations. Pleased with the progress so far, but am still in the front half the book.... So a year later and I have been stuck on lesson 36, in the second half of the Mickey Baker book, for the last few months.
Was doing alright till about August, when due to tiredness after work and more activity with the groups I play with, it was easier to practice the songbooks for the groups than to get the brain working on the Mickey Baker lessons.
Lesson 36 is a 24 bar solo which I struggled to get to play in time and then to transpose to other keys. During this Christmas break I have knuckled down and played it through all the sharp keys on the circle of fifths, mostly in time. That will be enough, won't worry about playing it in the flat keys, can always come back and do that later.
The rest of the book is "diggin' where the taters are", being soloing exercises over chord progressions.
The goal is to finish the book during the new year, so I can't afford to get hung up on any particular exercise, setting a time limit for each lesson might be the answer as I can always go back and work through them again.
( As noted previously, I am on my third trip through the book to get to this point, also for variety during a session I go back and work through the earlier chordal lessons.)
This time next year I hope to report back that the book is finished and I am a better player for it !
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Post by ninworks on Jan 9, 2023 7:04:38 GMT -5
For the last few days I have jumped back into my practice routine. I have played for an hour or two every day. I started out with some technique exercises that I had already accomplished but having not played them for 6 months or more they have gotten away from me. It's now the 4th day and yesterday they were getting back under my fingers again.
Still working on ear training every day. I have worked my way up to recognizing diminished triad inversions. Those are taking some work but I'm getting it. I do well when I hear the triad and then sing the notes either out loud or in my head and then choose which inversion it is. That way is slow but effective. The faster I do it, the worse the results are but I am learning how to hear them faster all the time. I need to get to a point where I don't have to sing them in order to recognize them. That will speed up the results. Baby steps.
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Post by ninworks on Feb 16, 2023 7:29:38 GMT -5
Yesterday was a good day. I practiced for 6 hours. I started at 10:30 AM and finished when my wife got home from work at about 4:30. All I did was play guitar, be the doorman for the dogs, drink coffee and pee. I didn't even eat. Who would have ever thought to use playing guitar as a weight loss program? It felt good to know that I still have the ability to first, play that long, and second, get lost in it and completely lose track of time for hours and hours. I hadn't done that for a long long time. I needed that. It was reassuring to find I still get that much enjoyment and am still fascinated with finding things I didn't know how to do and LOVE the process of figuring it out. I was in my own little world. That's how I depressurize from the monotonous and unpleasant everyday crap I have to take care of around here all of the time. I have had so much of that stuff to do lately that I hadn't even picked my guitar up to practice in over a month and it was wearing on me. I'm so excited about the new stuff I learned yesterday that it has inspired me to practice again today. I'm going to go do that now and stop wasting time on here. i just had to tell someone who would appreciate it. Now, stop reading this and go play yer guitar.
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Post by windmill on Feb 17, 2023 20:48:48 GMT -5
Its good to hear that you still enjoy playing so much. I find that once I start the time just goes and I dont want to stop. I got myself stuck on the first of the 4 exercises in Mickey Baker's Lesson 37. Again, by not putting in the effort to transpose it into other keys.Finally got it done. The next three exercises are "fill in the blank" types, where he has left some bars of the solos blank. This is the part of the book I really need to work on, I have made a start !
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Post by windmill on Sept 16, 2023 18:35:46 GMT -5
So here I am again, after making good progress with the Mickey Baker book, getting up to lessson 42 and on track to finish it by the end of the year, it came to a stop in May due to work committments.
Yesterday I started with some revision, back at lesson 3 !
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Post by windmill on Dec 15, 2023 19:18:47 GMT -5
Well its the end of the year and I am back at Lesson 15 in the Mickey Baker Jazz guitar book. Its now my fourth attempt at this book, so I am getting good value from it. So hopefully I may be able to get through it in the new year. But each lesson raises other possibilities, the current lesson has led to playing the arpeggios of the chords in the exercise all over the neck and connecting the arpeggios into "musical lines". Occasionally I think I may never finish this book !
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Post by ninworks on Dec 15, 2023 21:17:42 GMT -5
Dedication is the key. As long as you are committed it doesn't really matter how long it takes.
At this point in my playing career I am more focused on my technique than I am the content. I want to be able to execute the stuff I hear in my head and my technique is sometimes not up to the task. I need to focus on technique for awhile. Later I'll go back to content. That's not something I usually have a problem with.
I am trying to improve my economy picking when playing lead lines across multiple strings. I had some limited ability to do that for years but only in one direction across the strings. Going from low strings up to the higher pitched ones wasn't that much of a problem but going in the other direction was all but impossible for me. I wrote myself an exercise about 6 weeks ago that accented doing that as well as going in the direction I could already do somewhat. When I started I had to slow it down to 1/4 note triples at 45 beats per minute. That was the speed I had to play it at so there weren't any mistakes. I have been working on that every day for sometimes hours. Today I hit 160 BPM when playing 1/8 note triplets. I fudged a little at the end of my last practice session and put the metronome at 180 BPM to see if I could do it. I did but it was very sloppy. When I slowed back down to 160 it was perfect. I am not as concerned about being able to play that fast but when I work up through all of the tempos getting to the fast ones I can play the slower ones flawlessly. THAT'S what I'm all about. Developing some headroom in my technique.
I usually have 3 or 4 technical things I am working on at any one time and I move back and forth between them as I am practicing so I'm not always using the same muscles in the same ways. If I start feeling fatigue I move onto something else and come back to what I had been working on later in the session. It seems to be working. I was at 120 BPM last Sunday and today I hit 160 with no issues but I have probably practiced for 15 hours this week. I have to take advantage of the time when I can do that. I often get busy and may go days or weeks without even picking up a guitar. I have practiced so much this week that it is starting to feel easy again after neglecting it all summer long. I love that.
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Post by windmill on Jan 26, 2024 17:50:43 GMT -5
I'm still working away at the Mickey Baker book. Have finished the first section again and am very keen to start lesson 24, the first of the second section of the book, which is all about soloing over the chord progressions learnt in the first part of the book. This time through, the third time I have reached this far, I am paying more attention to timing and to sightreading the exercises. Also to "spelling out the chords" to find the common tones and how the voice leading may work.
It is all good fun. I shall continue the progress reports.
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Post by chucksmi on Mar 5, 2024 9:25:07 GMT -5
Don't focus on scales, learn SONGS. From the beginning to the end. Scales are nice warmups but not musical. Once you start learning to play a complete song - beginning to end - you'll unlock a lot of secrets. And you'll start developing the skills you need to be a working player if that is your goal.
Too many students feel that learning technique will make them musical. Makes them good at noodling and not much else.
Instead of learning scales, learn songs and then understand how that song is applying the theory, even if the person who wrote it didn't realize it.
Leaning the entire song will teach you ear training and discipline. That leads to musical maturity you can use for improvisation, like hearing the bass player leading you in a new direction, or a subtle change in the groove by the drummer.
When you do practice scales, do not just play them as a fingering exercise - listen to it and understand it's vibe and where it would be useful, i.e., not "How do I play this?" but instead "Where can I use this?"
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Post by ninworks on Mar 17, 2024 20:11:17 GMT -5
..... not "How do I play this?" but instead "Where can I use this?" Good advice, but there's no escaping that you must learn how to play it before you can use it.
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Post by windmill on Mar 18, 2024 6:19:41 GMT -5
Back to Lesson 35 in the Mickey Baker book ....and back to the trouble of transposing single note lines on sight. Could have worse problems I suppose.
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