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Post by Rick Knight on Dec 18, 2021 6:49:33 GMT -5
I got an upgrade offer this morning and assume that, like 10, they will eventually force the conversion issue. If anyone is currently using 11, how is it working?
Sorry if this has been discussed; but my search attempt found nothing.
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Post by rickyguitar on Dec 18, 2021 10:18:55 GMT -5
We are not impressed. Slow. Continuously wants to upgrade and cannot make a decent cup of coffee.
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Post by LVF on Dec 18, 2021 10:46:42 GMT -5
All I will say about this is: I'm not buying a new computer!!
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Post by Leftee on Dec 18, 2021 10:56:49 GMT -5
My MacBook Pro makes great coffee. And it’s 8 years old.
Just sayin’
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Post by HenryJ on Dec 18, 2021 12:37:39 GMT -5
I have two desktops (one of which could be discarded) and a laptop. I did upgrade my laptop to 11 last night. I haven't really used it yet, or put it through its paces. It may take some getting used to.
My 85-year-old sister-in-law bought a new laptop this year. It has 11. She was wondering if she should upgrade. The main reason I upgraded was to see if her hypoxic brain could get used to it. I think she will probably stay will 10, though I will show her what 11 looks like next time she comes over.
But I will need to get comfortable with it myself. I'm typing this from my desktop with 10.
Edited a typo
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Post by oldnjplayer on Dec 18, 2021 13:30:42 GMT -5
My PC is not able to be upgraded. I don't really care. Enough problems updating WIN 10.
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Post by Leftee on Dec 18, 2021 13:37:22 GMT -5
My PC is not able to be upgraded. I don't really care. Enough problems updating WIN 10. I’d just ride it until it’s no longer supported.
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Post by K4 on Dec 18, 2021 15:58:40 GMT -5
Did I ever tell anyone here that I hate win 10?
I finally figured that it self destructs on the 15th of every month, only to ask me to set up windows, along with that it closes any programs I have open. All hail the mighty MS.
From what I've seen of win 11, no thanks. It looks worse.
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Post by michael on Dec 18, 2021 18:46:47 GMT -5
of all the computers i have in the house, only TWO are eligible for 11!!! i allowed ONE to upgrade just to see what 11 was like and i don't see much different but i'm not using it for anything much more than internet these days.
i'm becoming more and more fond of my ANDROIDS... i love fooling with images and i think some of the Android photo editors are spectacular, allowing me to do things i've always tried to do on a PC but could never quite get them the way i wanted to.
as my PC's die or become obsolete i think i'm going to look at android and possibly chrome.
i may have to keep at least one PC around for my amateur radio applications, but i'm thinking there will be copies of them available on chrome by that time.
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Post by insanecooker on Dec 19, 2021 18:43:45 GMT -5
I have it on my gaming PC, which is connected to a TV in the media room. The new interface is actually pretty good for that use, and with my current setup (admittedly not a cheap one) it is very responsive and runs games very fast, which is the sole thing I need from it.
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Post by LVF on Dec 19, 2021 19:31:12 GMT -5
Windows 10 has another 'major' upgrade [version 21H2] that can be installed. I wonder if doing this upgrade will make it possible to upgrade to Windows 11? I don't even think I want to do the 10 upgrade. My computer(s) work just fine the way they are and there's never any miraculous new bobble found in these upgrades anyway. I think it just allows them to spy on you more easily.
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Post by jazzguy on Dec 19, 2021 20:20:46 GMT -5
My computer has been asking me to upgrade and today my home page has an upgrade now window that I can't delete. I'm still able to open other windows that work, but it's probably a matter of time before I wont have a choice.
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Post by lenny1716 on Dec 19, 2021 23:31:35 GMT -5
I allowed the upgrade from 10. At first I thought I had made a mistake in upgrading, as my laptop acted quirky, off and on, for a couple of days. It has stabilized, and, is performing back to "normal". For me, it does not seem like a significant difference, only getting accustom to the changes in layout.
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Post by Ragtop on Dec 20, 2021 12:14:12 GMT -5
I'd pay good money to upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 7
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Post by Leftee on Dec 20, 2021 12:21:38 GMT -5
I'd pay good money to upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 7 🏆
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Post by Rick Knight on Dec 22, 2021 7:48:20 GMT -5
My wife let Microsoft do what she thought was a 10 update but was actually the 11 installation. Hilarity ensued as we tried to find the power button. (Click Settings. It's the insignificant looking thing on the lower right.) Why they think making things more complicated is an improvement baffles me; but she says that, after a restart, it is otherwise ok so far. I'm in no hurry to try it myself.
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Post by modbus on Dec 24, 2021 12:28:20 GMT -5
I'd pay good money to upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 7
The hard drive on my trusty Windows 7 machine just crashed and crashed hard, so I bought a cheap laptop with Windows 10 on it.
I hate Windows 10, I hate it so much... It's like being trapped in a small elevator with an obnoxious, overbearing, know-it-all 700 pound man. I installed a dual boot Linux OS (Xubuntu 20.04 LTS) along side Windows 10, and I find myself only using the Linux boot.
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Post by themaestro on Dec 24, 2021 13:06:12 GMT -5
I plan on staying away from Win 11 as long as I can and as long as Win 10 is still supported.
Frankly, if it wasn't that I needed Powerpoint for building screen projections for church, Windows would be banished from the house. The online Microsoft Office just doesn't have all the features I require. The OS is nice enough, but I really hate the Microsoft direction of "integrating" the OS, Office and a bunch of other services with Microsoft account. Cell phones aren't much different.
One of my biggest gripes is updating. I have 2 church laptops that get shutdown when not being used. Every time I boot them, Windows Update pretty much takes over the machine, making it useless for other work. The other problem with updates is how long they take. When I update my linux machines, a <10 minute update is the norm. I have been locked out of Windows machines for an hour while they update. Granted, some of these machines are older or not very powerful, but why do updates take so long?
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Post by jtheissen on Dec 24, 2021 13:56:10 GMT -5
Came installed on a new computer. Works just fine for our measly needs.
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Post by LTB on Dec 25, 2021 17:47:42 GMT -5
I upgraded on my laptop but my Desktop PC running Windows 10 doesn't qualify to run windows 11 and when they stop backing Windows 10 I will be forced to either build another PC or get a Mac Desktop PC. After seeing my daughter's new iMac with 6 built in speakers that has phenomenol sound and extremely fast with the new Apple processor my money will probably go in that direction. Right now it is my understanding Windows 11 is beta and we are the guinny pigs who will ferrot out the issues for them. I had 2 minor issues (one being Shift/printscreen doesn't work yet and the other Outlook hung twice. Microsoft showed me to run task manager and stop Outlook then reboot and all ok. No issues since. Having said that, my neice is a power user and Windows 11 is not up to the task of things she does. For most it is ok but I say why upgrade until you have to which on my Desktop PC is 2025 but I am hoping to get an iMac in early 2022. The monitor is very high def. Computer is basically in the monitor so it takes up little realistate and uses a very nice tactile feeling ultra thin wireless keyboard and mouse.
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Post by LeftyMeister on May 18, 2022 9:28:09 GMT -5
I just bought a new laptop with Windows 11 and remembered this thread. My 4 year-old HP was literally falling apart (cheap case and monitor hinges). FWIW, I went with Lenovo and paid a couple of hundred dollars more than I'd priced it 6 months ago.
Anyway, I'm a firm believer in 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it'. Apparently, Microsoft is not. It's taken hours to find things that used to be easy, even in Windows 10. For example, I installed iTunes and want to put a shortcut on my desktop. I can find it in the Start menu and pin it to my taskbar, but cannot find the EXE file to put it on the desktop. I even went into the file manager and unhid everything. The EXE file is not to be found and there seems to be no other way to add a shortcut to the desktop.
That's just one example. Not a fan. UGH!
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Post by markfromhawaii on May 18, 2022 11:22:30 GMT -5
I bought a new HP laptop for our church that came with W 11. My take is that there’s not that big a difference between 10 and 11. One annoying “feature” is cutting/pasting. When you right click you have to click on “more options” for the paste command. Cntl V of course works but the additional mouse click bugs me. And then there’s all the stoopid notifications. I think that’s behind a lot of the OS upgrades nowadays.
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Post by Leftee on May 18, 2022 11:35:27 GMT -5
I’m here to tell you, what you guys are describing further differentiates the Mac world from PC. And it’s not Mac that is driving all the radical user changes.
When I retire I’ll have the pleasure of turning in my Dell laptop. At that point forward, no more PCs.
Ever
I’m all but off the merry-go-round.
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Post by Rick Knight on May 21, 2022 7:05:47 GMT -5
As others have said, I think Windows peaked with 7. Somehow 11 got installed on my computer one night a while ago, without any involvement on my part. By that time, I had seen enough of it on my wife's computer to know how to deal with a lot of the extra steps and new locations annoyance; and that it was otherwise not too different from 10, so I let it be.
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Post by Larry Madsen on May 21, 2022 13:00:51 GMT -5
Came on my new computer.
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Post by GmanNJ on May 27, 2022 6:57:57 GMT -5
Came installed on a new computer. Works just fine for our measly needs. I just had my Win7 machine die and got an all-in-one (looks like a screen only because the processor, cd, etc. are all built in) so its one power plug and a wireless keyboard and mouse. I dreaded the Win11 and all the bad I heard but this one is GREAT. Fast (also has a SS HD) with no hiccups whatsoever. Plenty of input ports on the back (yes even Ethernet) I think upgrading brings along artifacts and crap from the old OS which confuses the system (conflicts). This is done to preserve the programs so you dont have to reload them. But those config files in those programs are used to the old OS. Its also very iPad and Android like with apps, bluetooth (for my wireless headset) and pinch and zoom touch screen BJs Warehouse $600 HP, much bigger screen (23") and small footprint (all-in-one and wireless kybd and mouse). Bottom Line- I think a fresh install with robust enough HW (RAM, processor, HD) would get rid of these troubles many are seeing. BUT you have to reinstall all your programs (or get a program moving sw package which I dont know if they have issues) My biggest cost concern was MS office but I got a home & Office Lifetime license for $50. This gives the newest versions always, free updates and is a huge cost saver. Well worth it to have the latest MS Office with the latest OS since they were designed to work together. YMMV
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Post by GmanNJ on May 27, 2022 7:01:22 GMT -5
I even went into the file manager and unhid everything. The EXE file is not to be found and there seems to be no other way to add a shortcut to the desktop. If you find the program (even in a start menu search) then just right click and drag it to the desktop. When you release the mouse you will get a menu and select create shortcut. This method had been around since Windows 95. I have shortcuts all over my desktop, even to drives and folders on another networked PC.
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Post by LeftyMeister on May 27, 2022 7:07:53 GMT -5
If you find the program (even in a start menu search) then just right click and drag it to the desktop. When you release the mouse you will get a menu and select create shortcut. This method had been around since Windows 95. It doesn't work on 11, at least not on mine.
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