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Post by windmill on Dec 21, 2021 17:10:17 GMT -5
So on my relentless quest for knowledge, I have now reached this point of quandry.
Do i like the sound of a precision bass more than a jazz bass or vice versa ?
Right now I like the sound of the jazz over the precision...but.
I dont actually have either bass.
I have a MiJ Jaguar bass with jazz pickups and a MiA Jaguar bass with a precision pickup and and a jazz pick up at the bridge.
My main bass for a long has been the MiJ.
I have recently started using the MiA with solely the precision pickup in order to get a clear idea of its sound.
At this point in time, I prefer the MiJ sound but it may be just because I am more familiar with it.
Which do you prefer and why ?
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Post by themaestro on Dec 21, 2021 17:42:48 GMT -5
How fortunate that I already have a bowl of popcorn right here beside me!
In a band situation, I'm a P-bass guy. I think they just give a fuller, solid sound. The low mid boost is what does it. Now, the problem with a P-bass is that it doesn't sound so good in the bedroom, when playing by yourself. It is a kind of flat sound that is nothing fancy. The J sounds so much better when played by itself. However, I think a P sounds better when the whole band cranks up.
Now, that doesn't mean that I can't appreciate a J. I have a Yamaha BBG5 J-style bass that I pull out occasionally. It is strung with TI Jazz Flats, which give it a nice burpy sound without the clank that I don't like about J-basses.
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Post by matryx81 on Dec 21, 2021 23:59:25 GMT -5
The low mid boost is what does it. This is the reason that the P type bass may be often imitated, but never duplicated. Now, the problem with a P-bass is that it doesn't sound so good in the bedroom, when playing by yourself. It is a kind of flat sound that is nothing fancy. I respectfully disagree. This could be to each their own though. I like it by itself. To answer the question in the OP: I prefer the J overall. The low end is cleaner, clearer, and sharper. The P has the edge in the low mids. Stringing up a J with Rotosound Swing Bass 66 strings really brings out the character of a J.
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Post by Rick Knight on Dec 22, 2021 8:28:24 GMT -5
If I had to choose between a standard P or J pickup configuration, it would be a P. A few years ago I was gigging with a Ric 4003S and a Fender neck and Warmoth body J, and thought I had my bases covered (no pun intended). One day I came across a no name P body which I bought and added a MIM J neck. It became my #1. The Ric and J both sounded great for some things, but the P just worked for everything.
I no longer play long scale basses. My current #1 is a medium scale Warmoth P/J. For my purposes, that's a best of both worlds arrangement.
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Post by tmc on Dec 22, 2021 10:09:25 GMT -5
For me, the Precision sounds great with a minimal amount of messing with the EQ. The Jazz requires a little more finesse to dial things in. I do think the Jazz and P/J should be wired with a series/parallel switch to really open up the options.
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Post by Laker on Dec 22, 2021 14:55:47 GMT -5
I started with a Fender Jazz back in ‘63, switched to a Precision in ‘65 and back to a Jazz around ‘73 and found I could get the sound I was looking for out of either bass by just knowing how to tweak the tone setting of each. I liked the Jazz because the narrower neck gave me a little faster/easier neck to play. So, to answer the OP’s question, no preference.
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Post by hushnel on Dec 25, 2021 10:03:57 GMT -5
I have a P Special from 1980. It’s a beast though. I like the Jazz when someone else is playing it. I’ve owned them but they never hang around very long. It seems that the P really shines in the studio, the sound guys love it. I’m using the Guild Starfire more often now a days, in part because it’s lighter, with a wide tone palette.
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Post by LTB on Dec 27, 2021 2:15:35 GMT -5
I have both and like them but if I have to pick one it would Be a Jazz Right now I am really into my G&L SB-2 PJ bass
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Post by morrow on Dec 27, 2021 8:14:04 GMT -5
I used to be a Pbass guy , now it seems I play anything but Fenders . Aside from that Squier Bass VI I picked up . Can’t keep my hands off that .
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Post by oldfartbassplayrwalt on Jan 12, 2022 17:50:17 GMT -5
most of my current music is with acoustic guitar groups, so I appreciate the tone and personality my JBass brings to the mix.
When I substitute for other rock bands, I feel I'd probably sound better with a thick, heavy Precision Bass.
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Post by Taildragger on Jan 12, 2022 18:05:31 GMT -5
I prefer the ergonomics of the J neck and the sound of the P pup.
So I guess my vote goes to a P with a J neck.
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Post by twangmeister on Jan 12, 2022 23:09:04 GMT -5
I was Jazz Bass guy for years. I got my first one in 1972. My last was a anvil heavy Jazz Plus, the one with the Kubicki preamp. Currently I play a Precision and a '70s style Tele bass reissue. Oddly I like the recent mudbucker sound. There seems to be fairly decent highs in the new mudbuckers, something I don't remember with the original 1970s pickups
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Post by LTB on Jan 13, 2022 14:11:15 GMT -5
I have both! I typically have gravitated toward my 2017 American Pro Jazz with S-1 switch but since putting a Custom Shop 62 in my P bass I am loving it a bit more lately
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Post by reverendrob on Jan 15, 2022 7:20:51 GMT -5
If I have to pick a P or a J, J all day.
Thankfully, I don't.
I have a Bass VI!
I do have a P and a J laying around (the P only because I won one in a contest a decade or so ago); since getting the VI I really don't touch either.
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Post by HenryJ on Jan 15, 2022 10:20:37 GMT -5
Now, the problem with a P-bass is that it doesn't sound so good in the bedroom, when playing by yourself. It is a kind of flat sound that is nothing fancy. The J sounds so much better when played by itself. However, I think a P sounds better when the whole band cranks up. I'm not really a bass player, but I do own a MIM Fender P-Bass. I got it because I prefer its thump over the J-Bass's growl. The P-Bass is closer to the sound of a double bass (aka upright bass, aka string bass), which to my ears, is what "bass" should sound like. When I was a tuba player in college, we encouraged to emulate the sound of a string bass. OTOH, my wife hates the sound of my bass when I play it in the bedroom. You might be right about the solo sound of the P-Bass in the bedroom. But I think beauty is in the ear of the beholder.
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Post by matryx81 on Jan 15, 2022 11:35:34 GMT -5
I have a P Special from 1980. It’s a beast though. I like the Jazz when someone else is playing it. I’ve owned them but they never hang around vert long. It seems that the P really shines in the studio, the sound guys love it. I’m using the Guild Starfire more often now a days, in part because it’s lighter, with a wide tone palette. How is the 2-band EQ on that P special? I have some curiosity about that on a Precision bass, but not sure if it is enough to find one of those examples or have one made like that. (It isn't that I do not think I would like it, but it may spend more time sitting around than being played.)
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Post by BluzLvr on Feb 4, 2022 15:01:33 GMT -5
I prefer the ergonomics of the J neck and the sound of the P pup. So I guess my vote goes to a P with a J neck. One of the reasons I have a Fender American Elite Precision. Has the jazz neck w a pj configuration. Plus it's active and passive. What else could you need? Actually the neck is a little different than a jazz but more narrow than the precision. Those fat p necks always have messed with me. Maybe it's because I started out as a guitar player.
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Post by rickyguitar on Feb 9, 2022 23:59:07 GMT -5
Not really a bass player but I have a J I use as needed. I do like the sound of a P better. Or better yet a Ric.
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Post by hushnel on Feb 10, 2022 10:08:42 GMT -5
I have a P Special from 1980. It’s a beast though. I like the Jazz when someone else is playing it. I’ve owned them but they never hang around vert long. It seems that the P really shines in the studio, the sound guys love it. I’m using the Guild Starfire more often now a days, in part because it’s lighter, with a wide tone palette. How is the 2-band EQ on that P special? It’s usable, the range is sufficient. It’s an active circuit powered by a 9V battery. All the years playing the beast has probably compressed my vertebrae by an inch or two. I dropped a Guild Bi-Sonic pickup into a really sweet Squire Bronco that was pointed out to me by a violin making manager of the Gainesville Guitar Center. He believed it to be the best bass in the store at the time. He was right, it was freaky good, the bass cost me $149.00. the Bi-Sonic pick up about twice that. I really enjoy this bass. I even took it to the bass and nature camp at victor Wooten’s school, along with the Guild flic.kr/p/2jH6WZ8
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Post by matryx81 on Feb 11, 2022 23:51:45 GMT -5
I wonder how much different having a 2-band EQ is than just the usual tone knob.
Sometimes, I think they are worth searching out.
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Post by LTB on Feb 12, 2022 2:55:27 GMT -5
I wonder how much different having a 2-band EQ is than just the usual tone knob. Sometimes, I think they are worth searching out. I tend to like the tone of a 3 band EQ over a 2 band but hey have their following as well. As far as 2 band over passive tone control you would likely increase the tonal palet for sure
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Post by matryx81 on Feb 12, 2022 11:45:15 GMT -5
As far as 2 band over passive tone control you would likely increase the tonal palet for sure That is why I suspect they are worth tracking down (not to mention the unusual finishes they had at the time, provided I could find one of those).
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 14, 2022 4:07:27 GMT -5
I wonder how much different having a 2-band EQ is than just the usual tone knob. Sometimes, I think they are worth searching out. I just run the tone knob wide open, and use parametric EQ on my rack.
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Post by MoJoe on Feb 15, 2022 14:04:35 GMT -5
Alternating. The P fits perfectly with the band. The JB is getting more love at home when searching for a sound to fit an idea.
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Post by jw55 on Apr 20, 2022 8:18:24 GMT -5
They are two different animals. Of ccourse, they feel different before you ever plug in, the differences in the neck feel and how the body sits next to you.
Soundwise, Precisions sound thicker. With the single pickup, WHERE you pick the string is more obvious: From the pickup towards the neck, thicker and bass-ier. From the pickup towards the bridge, brighter and thinner. Controls couldn't be more simple, a volume and a tone.
Jazz Basses with two single-coil pickups (vs. the split humbucking pickup in the Precision) tend to have more definition with the second pickup back towards the bridge. A lot more tones possible simply through the mix of the two volume controls. This is easier to get bass-ier or thinner for guys who'd rather not move their picking hand to prompt this as you would on a Precision. You can still hear the difference where you pick on a Jazz, but often it's not as obvious on two pickup basses. With the single coils, Jazz Basses can be more succeptible to hum or electronic noise in some locales if not shielded carefully.
Both are bedrock designs, it's just down to which one feels better on the strap and sounds better to your ears.
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Post by bassngtr on Apr 25, 2022 10:32:03 GMT -5
jw55 used the term "thicker". I like that - THAT is what I am looking for, thicker and warmer, but not mud. I've always thought of myself as a PBass guy incl. preferring a wider neck, but I've only owned non-Fender PJs. I have a Fender Jazz which I LOVE but (to answer the ? in the title) I never use only the bridge pickup. My usual Jazz bass mix is 75+% neck, 25-50% bridge.
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Post by twangmeister on May 4, 2022 20:38:25 GMT -5
I was a Jazz Bass fan for many years. But then I had to decide whether I wanted to be a disgruntled guitarist on a bass or a bassist. There is a surprising range of tonality in a P depending on hand position and attack. CThe last ten years I have been a happy Precision player
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