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Post by Taildragger on Jan 9, 2022 18:26:22 GMT -5
To my ear, slapping has become almost a cliche due to over use by some players. And I particularly dislike the fact that some YouTube reviewers of basses, amps and effects only slap during the course of the review, rendering the review far less informative than it otherwise might be. Still, I think the technique can yield tasteful, pleasing, effective and appropriate results when used in moderation in the "proper" context.
I haven't been able to master it myself, mostly because I have arthritis in both thumbs which makes repeated slapping with my right thumb pretty painful. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but, during numerous attempts, I haven't been able to get more than a couple steps towards first base before having to break my stride and return to the dugout due to this arthritic discomfort. I generally play finger-style with lot's of amp volume and a soft touch, partly to minimize impact on my delicate hands, but this doesn't seem to help when I try to slap. Maybe the technique (which I've gleaned mostly from "slap for total beginners"-type YouTube videos) I'm using is flawed. Would like to have it in my arsenal to use, if only minimally. If not, I'll continue to soldier on as a finger-style-only player.
Anyhow...do you slap? How do you feel about the technique and did you find it difficult to master?
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Post by matryx81 on Jan 9, 2022 19:26:48 GMT -5
My pop game is excellent, my slap not so much. I always found using the thumb to be difficult. This is why I voted "only sparingly".
As for your first statement, I agree. I do not like demo videos that only feature slap bass. Sure, doing some slap is an excellent idea. Only slap does not give you a total picture of what a particular instrument can do.
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Post by tmc on Jan 9, 2022 19:50:45 GMT -5
I couldn't slap and pop to save my life. I've tried, but just was not able to do it. I gave up and the world is a better place.
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Post by ninworks on Jan 9, 2022 21:24:44 GMT -5
I can do it a little but I'm not great at it. I feel it is one of those techniques used best in moderation. I don't know what it is but it seems to me that many bass players use that technique to show off and make everyone appreciate how well they can play by doing slap and pop stuff. When I see a bass player do a solo and that's the only thing they do, it makes me want to leave because slapping and popping alone does not a great bass player make.
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Post by Taildragger on Jan 9, 2022 22:10:32 GMT -5
I can do it a little but I'm not great at it. I feel it is one of those techniques used best in moderation. I don't know what it is but it seems to me that many bass players use that technique to show off and make everyone appreciate how well they can play by doing slap and pop stuff. When I see a bass player do a solo and that's the only thing they do, it makes me want to leave because slapping and popping does not a great bass player make. Yeah, I kind of equate slapping with "tapping" when playing guitar: in moderation, all well and good. But it seems like many succumb to the temptation to get all flash and "gimicky" with it, often to the detriment of optimizing the composition as a working whole.
Spices are great in cooking but, when they're used in excess, the overall flavor of the meal gets buried and you taste nothing else.
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Post by matryx81 on Jan 9, 2022 22:28:27 GMT -5
slapping and popping does not a great bass player make. This is the truth.
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Post by windmill on Jan 10, 2022 7:52:55 GMT -5
Gave it a try once but couldn't get the hang of it.
The music I like and play does not have any of that in it, so I just dont do it.
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Post by Laker on Jan 10, 2022 8:51:22 GMT -5
I started to play around with it back in the late ‘70s (“Weekend” a song by Wet Willie pops up in my memory) but never got really comfortable with the technique. Like some said above, the stuff I play now days doesn’t call for it.
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Post by MoJoe on Jan 10, 2022 13:17:45 GMT -5
Can do, using it kinda accidentally if the song allows. Think Abe Laboriel et al.
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Post by LTB on Jan 11, 2022 17:07:28 GMT -5
I don't see the use of slap and pop in music I play, however when I go to GC there is always someone using that technique solely
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Post by jeffscott on Jan 11, 2022 21:39:48 GMT -5
The last time I saw the Flecktones (summer '19), when Vic did his "big solo", after a couple minutes I saw a bunch of people get up and leave the theatre. Even his stuff gets old fast.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Jan 12, 2022 10:48:47 GMT -5
I feel the pain of the OP. Back in my sales days it was like no one trying bass gear would just play a groove. It was ALWAYS slap. Guitarists has their own peculiarities too, though I'm not sure what the exact analog would be. It can be frustrating if a bass player is only judged on his ability to slap.
Then again, when it is done well, it is great. I never complained when this guy came in:
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Post by jw55 on Apr 20, 2022 8:32:03 GMT -5
I'm TERRIBLE at slapping. I sound like a hopelessly square guy making a mess out of it.
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Post by HeavyDuty on Apr 21, 2022 7:01:47 GMT -5
I’m really would like to learn how to slap, there are some songs that call for it. Every time I’ve tried to learn on my own it has been ugly, so it’s probably time to look for good YouTube tutorials.
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Post by morrow on Apr 21, 2022 9:37:32 GMT -5
My slap technique is pitiful . Bad enough to endure when I’m alone working on stuff , I would not subject anybody to that . I like to say “I’ve suffered for my music , now it’s your turn” but there are limits .
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Post by hushnel on Apr 21, 2022 11:57:37 GMT -5
No, can’t do it. I play right handed, never had a choice. Everything else I do left handed. I fell off a six story building back in the mid 70s. I was a mess, it took a year before I was moving around. One of the injuries was to my right arm, they had to fuse the radius to the humerus. The right wrist does not rotate. I paralyzed the right bicep in a car crash in 1978, broke my neck. I can’t really hold the right arm up but I can rest it on the instrument and play, the fingers work fine.
I’ve learned a lot about risk management since those early days of immortality. I’m actually a good bassist despite the early idiot me. A few times I was told by professional medical types that I would never play again. Around 2012 I managed to crush the left hand in a motorcycle accident, yet again I was told I’d never be able to play . I sent a youtube link to the doctor of me sitting in with Albert Castiglia about 2 months after the accident
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Post by MoJoe on Apr 22, 2022 14:00:08 GMT -5
... Guitarists has their own peculiarities too, though I'm not sure what the exact analog would be. ... Senseless shredding? 😑 Willie Weeks, Chuck Rainey etc. slapping and popping with restraint all over my 70s record collection made me find a way. Reasonable results as a beginner came with Laboriel's fingerstyle of popping with thumb and index finger and made effortless slapping kinda sneak in naturally one day.
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Post by twangmeister on Jun 1, 2022 12:30:42 GMT -5
I can still slap and pop but I only found use for those techniques in funk music.
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