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Post by gbfun on Feb 25, 2022 6:34:41 GMT -5
Man, I sense what you do there...you REALLY like sound ! And you "play" with it. (your titles crack me up sometimes too) And you explore disorder with the sound textures. It IS freejassfromhell ! I found it interesting and it gave me ideas for my own exploration. A while back a City was trying to get people to stop sleeping on the sidewalk in a certain place. The City even tried Classic music ! Nothing worked. So I have to say, some of your "experiments" might actually have financial value for freaking out people used to musical "order" ! Because your stuff is almost always "freeform", with occasional acceptances of pulsed effects, and it would drive squatters and the unwanted away. And I bet freejazzfromhell would work pretty good for passive crowd control ! Might be good for keeping animals away too. Even the government might use it. And you might get paid ! Very interesting stuff but not for everyone, that's for sure. Definitely exploring the far reaches of sound space ! Do you zone out when you are in the middle of playing, and then mix stuff the same day ? Or do you record and come back to it another day ?
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 25, 2022 6:47:36 GMT -5
I titled an album once, "Music for Employee Morale in Industrial Spaces" or somesuch, I know what it does to certain people - conversely, for those who get it, I'm a valued evildoer!
Usually I mix after the session is over, will master when I have a project finished and call it good.
Sometimes I don't have that luxury (like my recent Mojave Desert sessions, where it was me, a single Les Paul, a Boss Katana, and a little Zoom 8 track with a Sennheiser e906. There I recorded all week, mixed when I got back!
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Post by gbfun on Feb 27, 2022 8:26:28 GMT -5
Judging from your titles I think you might be a poet ! But then, there is a "meter" to good poetry and you know, a strict beat probably isn't your thing ! Also, I didn't hear a lot of synth in your stuff. I'm pretty sure you know about this, but the resonance and cutoff values can be manipulated with an expression pedal in the GR55. But do you know that the bass sounds can really freak out from resonance and cutoff values ? If you haven't fully explored that, I'd explore that and expand into other samples, and then with combination of samples using the expression pedal. That should keep any sound lover busy for a while. Of course some sounds work poorly and some are outrageous with the expression pedal. And some sounds work with guitar and some sounds don't. I explored all this stuff on the GR1 a decade or so ago and found some cool stuff. I also advanced the guitar sound ahead of the synth various milliseconds and also retarded it various milliseconds. All this results in expression control madness and surprisingly varying sound textures and interactions between both sound sources. All this works best with a stereo guitar rig and a stereo PA rig for the synth. And yeah, watched some European sound nerds on Youtube go nuts with synth sounds and they are REALLY into it. They LOVE sounds. Almost a religion ! I took a primitive synth class long ago. And played with a few keyboards. But I was only interested in how the WHO mixed synth and guitar so well at the time. I'd like to write songs like that, but, uh...I'd have to get it together first ! And I have a lot of other things to do. But this thread is reminding me it's time to reexplore the GR55 again. And maybe watch for a more powerful GR66....GR77...GR1000 ? C'mon Roland, fix up the GR55 flaws and put out something bigger and better ! What's taking so long ? Geez. It's not like I have a lot of time to wait...
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Post by ninworks on Feb 27, 2022 9:44:15 GMT -5
I have had keyboard synthesizers since the 70's. Many of them, both analog and digital. I absolutely LOVE them. I can play keys but am a much better guitarist than keyboard player. I always wanted a guitar synth of some sort but every one I ever played had too much latency for me to be enamored with it unless sticking strictly to sustained chords and pads. I haven't played one since the 80's though. Has the latency issue been resolved with the trigger systems? If so I need to check them out again.
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 27, 2022 16:30:16 GMT -5
Judging from your titles I think you might be a poet ! But then, there is a "meter" to good poetry and you know, a strict beat probably isn't your thing ! Also, I didn't hear a lot of synth in your stuff. I used to be a poet when I was younger, but..some things you outgrow. I use it sparingly, when the moment calls for it. It's not a regular thing (and less in the last year or two, although my recent stuff has been integrating a Roland 303 clone because I could). Much of the time I'm using it for the alternate tunings/vGuitar functions as much as the rest as well. And yea, can assign all sorts of things and have a field day there - it'll go into crazy mode fast.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Feb 27, 2022 17:34:40 GMT -5
check out Amazon rechargeable batteries...brand name Talent. Talentcell. About six years ago I put together a small pedalboard using a rechargeable 12V DC Talentcell battery pack to run my Fly Rig 5. It goes more than 40 hours on a single charge and has given me nary a lick of problems. It's all mounted on a 1/4" Lexan plate; the steel cabinet handles prevent stepping on plugs in the jacks and breaking them. Plug in the guitar, run a cable to the amp, and switch it on. No wall wart to worry about. This little rig is bomb proof.
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 27, 2022 22:48:10 GMT -5
I have had keyboard synthesizers since the 70's. Many of them, both analog and digital. I absolutely LOVE them. I can play keys but am a much better guitarist than keyboard player. I always wanted a guitar synth of some sort but every one I ever played had too much latency for me to be enamored with it unless sticking strictly to sustained chords and pads. I haven't played one since the 80's though. Has the latency issue been resolved with the trigger systems? If so I need to check them out again. I'd check out a GR-55. Latency is minimal at best, on most there's unperceivable latency. I don't feel constrained my mine at all. It's also got most of the fun stuff from the Roland vGuitar built in to boot, and the synth patches are actually deep-editable. You're not stuck with Crappy Trumpet #2. There's a free open-source PC editor for it as well that makes programming a breeze. There are DEEP customization options to say the least. And -/+ 24 on a per string basis, per patch - decent 12 string sounds, etc.
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Post by ninworks on Feb 28, 2022 5:29:59 GMT -5
Are they still using hexaphonic pickups? If so, which one works the best? I see Fishman has a wireless MIDI option.
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 28, 2022 9:06:51 GMT -5
Fishman is only an interface to PC plugins.
And yea, it's still GK-2 and GK-3 pickups (they haven't sold the former in years, but they're still supported).
One of the big things in the 55 is you have presets for multiple guitars possible (and set scale length etc) - so it's not just A or B. It made using my beloved 24" scale monsters an option, and Bass VI feasible as well.
There are also Graph-Tech ghost to 13-pin solutions that are of varying success, some people swear by them, some at them. I'm simple and just bolted on GK-3s!
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Post by gbfun on Mar 3, 2022 7:17:07 GMT -5
My...I may have to update my GR55 editing software. I snagged an old version but just used the GR55 instead. I like the GK2a best because of it's flatter design. The GK3 is too rounded and I had to modify string saddles to get it to work better. Not good ! Roland supports something ? Huh. When did that start happening ? I've got all sorts of stranded Roland gear. Like my VS-1680 etc. But I do need a couple spare hex pickups to fix broken GK2 and GK2a pickups. Someday. I'll probably have to wait for a GK4 though. How did you manage to get Roland support lately ? I just broke a string on a Graph Tech saddle so I'm not too happy with them right now, but it's nice to know Graph Tech ghost provides another option. Yeah, Peegoo, that's a real solid looking rig there, and I too love being able to set up ANYWHERE and play through power outages. I am suspicious of fairly cheap all-in-one boards like that but then again, I'm installing and using Parson Street pickups left and right and they're on my current #1. I think I have you to thank for that. If so, you're also responsible for draining my bank account more than I wanted ! And if Parsons sound good through your compact rig, then I wasted a lot of time and money building my own rig and should have copied yours. I'm too stupid to do that though. So what magnets do you have on your fabulous good toned V guitar ? I don't remember you mentioning it. Maybe it doesn't matter that much. I'm drinking the coolaid though, so I went for an A5 at the neck and A2 for the bridge and that works good enough for me ! It is a bit ironic in that my Parson pickups are going into...old PRS copies ! You still working for PRS ? That's quite an adventure I thought. Anyway, I like Parsons in my Korean PRS copies and now I wonder what the REAL PRS pickups sound like. I think my PRS copies might be early prototypes for the Korean PRS SE guitars...except the wood is cheaper in mine, and the original pickups were 16 to 17ohm monsters of no use to me whatsoever. The neck is pretty good and playable though, and I found them on the scrap heap of Musician's Friend for cheap, when they had a real store 25 years ago. Now one of them is my #1 and the other is...a temporary problem child I hope. Btw, did you know that the string spacing on Parsons isn't different between bridge and neck like the old days ? And that the earlier version Parsons were 1/8th of an inch smaller than the current version string spacing(screws)? Yeah, surprise ! Not yet sure this matters much, but it could...especially for lead. Distorted rhythm sounds the same. I'm still messing with pots on the problem child and so I can't test lead on the bigger string spacing yet. I might have just bought a lot of bridge pickups though ! I also got a Seth Lover set that I'll compare to the Parson's in the near future. I got those for a little more than Parsons when an ebay seller took my offer. They look real so far ! But time will tell. What a world...
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Post by gbfun on Mar 4, 2022 7:56:15 GMT -5
Well, well. The Lover's string spacing were the same for neck and bridge and are 1/16th of an inch less than current Parsons...like the original Parsons.
They look a LOT alike but Gold covers are slightly darker and the bottom plate is differently bent and sized.
The Lovers test at 7.39K and 8.13K...the Parsons at 7.30K and 9.0K.
The Lovers both have A2 magnets.
I can't wait to do an A/B test. But I need the right tone pot first, and dang, mine just left China !...no doubt on a slow boat.
So much for ebay seller claims of having stock in the USA !
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Mar 4, 2022 8:10:02 GMT -5
I do have the A5 neck and A2 bridge, and I based that on advice from Seymour Duncan. I have Stooge Mac PS humbuckers in several guitars. I also have Gibson '57 Classics as well as Gibson CS Custombuckers in other guitars, and I have to say the PS pickups sound just as good. Are they better or worse? Nope. They're just as toneful and just as good. I have a pair of Gibson T-Tops from a 1976 Explorer in a 2009 SG, and they sound really good too. Better than the PS? No. That is why I really like the PS humbuckers. And I'm still at PRS
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Mar 4, 2022 8:17:21 GMT -5
And every time I see "wall wart," I think of this:
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Post by gbfun on Mar 4, 2022 18:33:42 GMT -5
LOL P !
Thanks for pickups info ! Good to hear such faith in PS. They got me addicted somehow...at least on one guitar.
I'm hoping for 3 addicting guitars eventually.
But put it on my overly snarly closet Queen ? A lowly PS or a real Gibson MegaCustom57TtopBlastoFart pickup set to maintain value ? Hmm.
I better be REALLY convinced. Not that I'm going to sell the closet Queen but a PS might lower it's value to us obsessive musician types.
And hey, I'm danged picky about sound. But maybe a Gibson BlastoFart pickup LOOKS better. Now I have to buy a BlastoFart cover to put over the PS !
On the other hand, the closet Queen could stand to be a bit less "shiny".
An uncovered PS could look BETTER then. Hmm...
Times up ? Ok. This has been a useful therapy session. Yeah, see ya next week...
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