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Post by gato on May 21, 2022 6:43:03 GMT -5
Boeing's glitch plagued Starliner "space taxi" on Friday, finally sputtered and wheezed to an unmanned docking with the International Space Station, a mere two years behind schedule. Bristling at the suggestion that the lumbering Starliner is Boeing's ugly stepsister to the 737 meat-baller, Steve Stich, manager of NASA's commercial crew program, breezily dismissed the nail biting problems that occurred during the launch. "We stuck a bunch of redundant thrusters on the thing just in case something went sideways. Even a Cordon Bleu chef keeps a fire extinguisher handy." Critics have compared the bloated government funded Starliner program unfavorably, to the proven Space X Crew Dragon, as "the 1588 Spanish Armada vs England's far smaller and more nimble warships." As far as the first upcoming manned launch of the Starliner ... "no one was willing to risk a half dozen chimpanzees, so we're doing some intensive recruiting among death row inmates all over the country. "It's tough, because all we can offer as a last meal aboard the Starliner, is a tube of avocado paste with a Tang chaser." spacenews.com/starliner-docks-with-iss-for-the-first-time/
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Post by rickyguitar on May 21, 2022 8:30:59 GMT -5
Whew! I thought this was gonna be witch trials or sumpin.
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Post by RufusTeleStrat on May 21, 2022 9:33:24 GMT -5
Typical example of give the specs to private industry and let them run with it, Space X, or let a committee design a race horse, and you get a camel. This bloated abomination is exactly what we do not need.
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Post by Davywhizz on May 22, 2022 12:46:51 GMT -5
Not so sure about the 1588 analogy. The biggest ship on either side during the Spanish Armada episode was English. Many of the Spanish ships were high, heavy merchant vessels adapted to carry troops rather than for fighting. The English ships tended to be longer, lower, faster and with a better rate of fire. They also had more ships overall than the Spaniards.
There are so many myths about the story, and they still appear, even in some supposedly serious books. The "Armada Tapestries", commissioned by the Lord High Admiral (Lord Howard) are the source of some of those myths. They hung in the House of Lords in London for two centuries until the Houses of Parliament pretty much burned down in 1834. Lots of later paintings were based on them, including the inaccuracies. The tapestries show the battles as Howard wanted them to be remembered: the English ships look smaller and fewer in number than the Spanish and Howard's own part in the events is highlighted, with other leaders kept in the background.
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Post by RufusTeleStrat on May 22, 2022 13:18:23 GMT -5
This is another issue we would never have now. First of all the amount of wood it took to make the ships cleared entire forests in both England and the continent was devastating.
If it were now there is no way you would get that many trees cut to build one ship. Let alone 300 +.
This is also a problem for them rebuilding Notre Dame as they do not have enough large lumber.
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Post by gato on May 22, 2022 15:08:17 GMT -5
Not so sure about the 1588 analogy. The biggest ship on either side during the Spanish Armada episode was English. Many of the Spanish ships were high, heavy merchant vessels adapted to carry troops rather than for fighting. The English ships tended to be longer, lower, faster and with a better rate of fire. They also had more ships overall than the Spaniards. There are so many myths about the story, and they still appear, even in some supposedly serious books. The "Armada Tapestries", commissioned by the Lord High Admiral (Lord Howard) are the source of some of those myths. They hung in the House of Lords in London for two centuries until the Houses of Parliament pretty much burned down in 1834. Lots of later paintings were based on them, including the inaccuracies. The tapestries show the battles as Howard wanted them to be remembered: the English ships look smaller and fewer in number than the Spanish and Howard's own part in the events is highlighted, with other leaders kept in the background. The outcome was inevitable once Captain Nemo waded in. So to speak.
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