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Post by gato on Feb 3, 2020 7:39:02 GMT -5
I am of an age where dying enters my thoughts more frequently. I'm sorry ... did I say "dying"? I meant to say passing, transiting, departing, slipping, called .... I think there are as many euphemisms for references to death, as there are for winning or losing in sports.
My everyday newspaper has an obituary page. The Sunday paper has several pages. Some of the notices are the size of a postage stamp, while others feature write ups that would do a passing celebrity proud. Would I want my "moment" to be posted there?
Obviously if I'm dead (passed) I don't care. Do my loved ones care? Who would actually read an obituary, other than those who knew me? And if they knew me, they already knew what would be written in the first place.
So .... nah .... my "wink out" will be no big deal. Our sun will die, taking the planets with it. Our galaxy will die. My death? I prefer to go out with barely a ripple in the cosmic pond, remembered by a few, unnoticed by the majority.... a metaphor for that bass player in the shadows, off to the side of the stage, blending in the sonic mixture, but never the main course.
What say you?
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Post by HenryJ on Feb 3, 2020 8:35:42 GMT -5
Not sure what you're asking.
But you mentioned all the euphemisms for "death." My wife and I are assigned the task of sending group emails to our church group. Over 60 email addresses in the group. Anyway, someone had us to send out a message that one of the members, who is at least 90 years old, was discharged from the hospital.
I started to title the email "___ went home." Because "went home" is a euphemism for "died." But I didn't, because ___ is a great guy and we really like him.
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Post by Ryder on Feb 3, 2020 9:31:21 GMT -5
Obituaries are quite expensive! Some of them try to tell the person’s life story. Why?
I had a friend die last October. No obituary, no funeral. It was weird but that’s how he wanted it. And a guy I knew from church died last year also.
I suppose the following is true: Gone but not forgotten. Life is for the living.
Not sure what I’m trying to say here. I don like the thought of dying and leaving my family without me. That’s the way it goes though.
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Post by gato on Feb 3, 2020 9:42:53 GMT -5
Not sure what you're asking. But you mentioned all the euphemisms for "death." My wife and I are assigned the task of sending group emails to our church group. Over 60 email addresses in the group. Anyway, someone had us to send out a message that one of the members, who is at least 90 years old, was discharged from the hospital. I started to title the email "___ went home." Because "went home" is a euphemism for "died." But I didn't, because ___ is a great guy and we really like him. Just asking whether you would find it appropriate / comforting / flashy to have an obituary of you made public, ostensibly to be read by people who have never heard of you. Leaving a sort of "Kilroy was here" mark.
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Post by jhawkr on Feb 3, 2020 9:52:44 GMT -5
I prefer short and simple. He lived/He died. Good to have the notice so people you don’t see often get the word.
we don’t have funerals or burials anymore either. “Celebration of Life” and “Graveside Service”.
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Post by twangmeister on Feb 3, 2020 10:22:52 GMT -5
I have some dear friends from my years in North Carolina who might shed a tear when I go. The boys of the Polish American String Band, my mummer's club, will lift a few brewskis in my memory. That will be it. No service.
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Post by hilltop87 on Feb 3, 2020 10:34:29 GMT -5
The band The Godfathers summed it perfectly with their song "Birth, School, Work, Death"
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Post by Taildragger on Feb 3, 2020 10:45:44 GMT -5
I'll need no obit: my salacious Super Bowl half-time dances and wardrobe malfunctions are already seared indelibly into the memories of all who witnessed them.
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Post by LVF on Feb 3, 2020 11:05:40 GMT -5
Everybody and everything living or whose ever lived will go unnoticed in the blip of time that we exist. Enjoy every sandwich.
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Post by swampyankee on Feb 3, 2020 12:46:41 GMT -5
As I edge closer to the abyss, I ponder such things as well. One series that really hit me hard was Six Feet Under, when the final scene shows the eventual death of every cast member, one by one in their own time. One term they used was to "enter into a dreamless sleep", which is probably an apt description despite whatever faith-based beliefs I've have in the past.
I'm sure my demise will be unnotable, my obit unmemorable. I'd prefer my demise be dramatic, like in a firey crash, or lost at sea. At least the kids would have a story to tell.
"Yep, your granddad was lost at sea. It was a mighty storm and he fought bravely but lost. Oh by the way, did know you granddad used to rock out? Yep, he owned a Twin Reverb and everything!"
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Feb 3, 2020 12:55:17 GMT -5
"Man is born, man lives, man dies. And it's all vanity." The band CAKE recorded a song called Thrills, by covering an early-70s tune originally titled Stories, by The Chachkas, and added voice-over samples of a monologue by a fundamentalist preacher. My favorite obit belongs to Sybil Marie Hicks. She wrote it herself (mostly). I am truly sorry I never got to meet this woman. She reminds me a lot of my own dear mama:
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Post by Ryder on Feb 3, 2020 13:02:22 GMT -5
I’m not afraid of dying, I just don’t want to go yet!
If you don’t know where you’re going afterwards, it might be somewhat unnerving.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Feb 3, 2020 13:29:42 GMT -5
I know exactly where I'm going (this is not a religious statement). "Just asking whether you would find it appropriate / comforting / flashy to have an obituary of you made public, ostensibly to be read by people who have never heard of you. Leaving a sort of 'Kilroy was here' mark." I'm not afraid of death. It's the 'dying' part and the pain that usually precedes it that causes me mild apprehension I've thought alot about the social-group-thing that usually accompanies momentous occasions like weddings and funerals. Weddings today are a thing because there is a whole industry built up around them and girls are trained from a very young age that their wedding is Their Day to Become a Princess. But I tend to believe that very early on, weddings were crafted by village/tribal leaders to assign a sort of permanence to the bond of matrimony in order to help keep couples together. Put more simply, "Hey. You two are a THING. We have 200 witnesses to prove it. So don't think you can just walk away because you both want to sleep on the right half of the bed. You are in it for the long haul, mister." Funerals are similar in that way (to me, at least) in that it marks the occasion in a big way (dead guy on prominent display..."yeah, he's not breathing or moving) as Yep, He's Really Gone and He's Not Faking It Just To Avoid You Guys. It makes it clear in everyone's perception that no matter how much they wish the dead guy was still around--he ain't. I think it's also why there was and still is a thing called a "wake." They prop up a guy in a box for several days just to make sure he's not still alive. Soon as the flowers can no longer overpower the smell of food left out overnight, that's when you get out the shovels.
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Post by rickyguitar on Feb 3, 2020 13:57:07 GMT -5
I suspect being dead is just fine, though the process of getting there is potentially unpleasant. Obit? I dont care. Those who are interested will already know. On a side note, when our oldest son's oldest died at 5 the funeral home put an obit in the local paper. Our son, his dad went ballistic. Called them, ranted and raved and said if they did not have it discontinued he would sue them after kicking someone's tail. Ended the conversation with 'and you misspelled his name'! It was not helpful at all.
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Post by swampyankee on Feb 3, 2020 14:03:40 GMT -5
There was a quote somewhere - probably a movie quote - about what the purpose of a wake is. It's to reinforce through the many condolences, etc. the reality of loss for the agrieved, and to help them go through the grieving process.
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Post by HenryJ on Feb 3, 2020 14:06:42 GMT -5
I believe that Yogi Berra made good sense when said "Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they won't come to yours."
By "other people," I would mean the survivors. The purpose of a funeral, to me, is to recognize that the person is no longer with us. And to get us past our denial.
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Post by Ryder on Feb 3, 2020 15:26:38 GMT -5
I don't want no steeenking obit. I told my wife to save her money.
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