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Post by LM on Feb 3, 2020 18:31:24 GMT -5
As I've said, I'm turning my Carvin into a HSS 'Super Strat'. Using a 5-way switch, I'm imagining the following:
1 - Bridge humbucker 2 - Bridge tapped with middle for classic position 2 quack 3 - Middle 4 - Middle & Neck in series 5 - Neck
I never use the classic # 4 position so I'm thinking this would get me a pseudo neck bucker.
Is this possible? If so, how do I come up with a wiring scheme?
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Post by LM on Feb 3, 2020 18:55:19 GMT -5
Also, I'm considering a master tone with one volume for the bridge and the other for the middle and neck.
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Post by ScottB on Feb 4, 2020 14:06:29 GMT -5
Also, I'm considering a master tone with one volume for the bridge and the other for the middle and neck. I'm not sure about the wiring of the Carvin pickups, but the standard 5-way switch only has the single output for the master volume control. To split the pickups to 2 volume controls I believe you would need a multi-pole super switch.
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Post by LM on Feb 4, 2020 15:08:54 GMT -5
The pickups are Lollars. I'll need to pull the pickguard to ensure a super switch will fit.
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Post by Pinetree on Feb 4, 2020 15:19:56 GMT -5
A Superswitch (EP1112) should fit wherever a 5-way standard would fit.
If not, get out the router.
Email DiMarzio and they will usually help.
Just don't tell them whose pickups you're using.
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Post by LM on Feb 4, 2020 20:57:42 GMT -5
I'm thinking I may go with this scheme...
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Post by DrKev on Feb 5, 2020 11:08:29 GMT -5
That scheme is totally doable with a superswitch, if you think of the middle and neck singles as each being one coil of a humbucker you should easily be able to figure out a wiring diagram based on others out there. If I have time on Friday I'll see if I can pull it together. Feel free to drop me an email if necessary. kevin (a) drkevguitar (.) com
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Post by LM on Feb 5, 2020 17:22:13 GMT -5
Thanks, Kev. I'm also going to take a shot at it but I'd be interested in your ideas.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Feb 5, 2020 17:26:17 GMT -5
I'll draw up a diagram for you...
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Post by LM on Feb 5, 2020 17:36:29 GMT -5
Thanks!
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Feb 6, 2020 11:49:33 GMT -5
DrKev--and anyone else--please feel free to critique this diagram; I am not an expert in this stuff. If I had a Superswitch here I'd mock it up and test to see if this is correct. I probably left something out, so please 'murder board' this diagram for me. I included the four-pole layout on the left to assist with your analysis of this scheme. I drew this to be used with a two-knob scheme (master vol and master tone). The single line from the switch goes to the vol pot; wire the master tone control to the vol pot a la Tele wiring. Note: I used Duncan color codes for the humbucker (the red and white wires are where both coils join for humbucking operation. The black wire is coil hot, the green wire is coil ground, and the bare silver wire is shield ground). I didn't include the green wire and bare silver shield wire as they are wired to common ground along with the ground wires from the middle and neck pups, also not shown here.
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Post by Pinetree on Feb 6, 2020 16:12:09 GMT -5
Looks about right.
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Post by LM on Feb 6, 2020 18:50:30 GMT -5
Thanks, guys! I'm thinking I really want 2 volumes and 1 tone so I can balance the bucker volume with the S/C's. But I can be persuaded otherwise since I've never owned a HSS guitar.
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Post by Pinetree on Feb 6, 2020 19:05:36 GMT -5
Personally, 2 knobs are plenty.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Feb 6, 2020 21:36:48 GMT -5
I drew this up for a master vol because it simplifies the issues encountered with controlling volume when you have multiple pickups and a splittable humbucker.
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Post by LM on Feb 7, 2020 6:50:07 GMT -5
I could try it this way. I ordered a Fralin Pure PAF at 8.2K. If it balances volume-wise, I shouldn't need two volumes.
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Post by DrKev on Feb 7, 2020 15:13:03 GMT -5
It won't balance at standard pickup-string distances but I have no problems with PAFs just dialing back height until it balances well with the single coils. Works great if you need clean tones all night long and must have a good balance. The problems you might have with the wiring scheme you asked for in the first post... 1) Half a humbucker is weak. Put it in parallel with something else and the result is weaker than either of the two things. This means split humbucker plus single is lower output than either split coil HB or single coil on their own. I can't live with that volume drop so I prefer full HB in parallel with middle single. Sounds really similar to the classic strat equivalent, just a little thicker and warmer. I don't care about hum cancelling because I have noiseless singles. 2) Two single coils in series will be noticeably louder than either coil on their own, which makes worrying about humbucker volume kind of a moot point. Diagram coming soon. Don't touch that dial!
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Post by Pinetree on Feb 7, 2020 15:16:56 GMT -5
I agree.
Half a Humbucker doesn't really sound like a single coil, but it's not a bad sound.
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Post by LM on Feb 7, 2020 15:24:04 GMT -5
I would only use it when paired with the middle or neck.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Feb 7, 2020 15:45:18 GMT -5
DrKev said, "Half a humbucker is weak. Put it in parallel with something else and the result is weaker than either of the two things."
Hence my previous statement, "I drew this up for a master vol because it simplifies the issues encountered with controlling volume when you have multiple pickups and a splittable humbucker."
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Post by LM on Feb 7, 2020 15:48:58 GMT -5
I missed that. I certainly don't want that tone as an option.
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Post by DrKev on Feb 7, 2020 15:59:28 GMT -5
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Post by Leftee on Feb 7, 2020 16:15:43 GMT -5
We can’t upload images. We ran out of space in the first month.
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Post by DrKev on Feb 7, 2020 16:22:10 GMT -5
I know, I'm trying to imbed from imgur using the Insert Image feature. Here's an updated diagram including a parallel resistor for with single coils if you choose 500kΩ pots. imgur.com/Clll7ua
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Post by LM on Feb 7, 2020 16:37:24 GMT -5
Thanks, Kev! Is this for a master volume? To imbed images, click the Reply button in the upper right of the post.
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Post by DrKev on Feb 7, 2020 17:35:59 GMT -5
Yes. But if you want the singles on one and the hum on another, just remove the jumper on the LHS and send the upper common to one volume control and the lower one to another. The resistor will have to be wired to the upper left common terminal.
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Post by LM on Feb 7, 2020 17:37:46 GMT -5
With the insight Kev provided regarding volume imbalance, I'm considering this option. I added the mini toggle to tap the bucker at will.
The pickup I ordered is a 3-wire.
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Post by LM on Feb 7, 2020 21:08:44 GMT -5
Here's a bad photoshop pic with the bucker...
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Post by DrKev on Feb 8, 2020 3:33:23 GMT -5
That's gonna be a great guitar! Beauty!
Three conductor wiring doesn't change much, you just have no green wire. I think.
Ya know, I played with the parallel and split-coil stuff and it just never worked for me. Too bright, too thin. If you love a true single coil in the bridge, YMMV.
My feeling with HSS guitars is that if you mostly play clean tones and need comparable volumes, stay full humbucker and lower it to match out with the singles. Or buy a compressor. If you play OD/distortion mostly, the volume differences will translate to gain reduction and that can be really useful. Then you can let the humbucker truly growl and roar and let the singles bring their cleaner brighter vibe.
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Post by LM on Feb 8, 2020 7:06:14 GMT -5
That's a good point. I figure if I use Lindy's blend configuration with the tap switch, I don't have to tap if it doesn't sound good, but the option is there. But if I hardwire the 5-wire to tap, the option is gone.
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