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Post by ninworks on Jul 19, 2022 7:58:44 GMT -5
There are times when I sit down to practice and I can't concentrate on what I'm doing at all. These days I'm usually working on some kind of arpeggios up and down the neck in all the different keys. I start by figuring out the fingering that goes with my picking technique in one key and then I map it out for each inversion in all the different keys from one end of the neck to the other. Then I write that into my practice software so I won't forget it. By the time I have done that I am done for the day.
The next day I'll warm up with something I can already play and then go back to whatever new thing I figured out the day before. Sometimes I can do it and others I can't concentrate for longer than a few seconds before my mind starts wandering and I start making mistakes. I know when I am making mistakes at a very VERY slow tempo that I am not concentrating so I'll try to focus may attention back to what I am doing. That lasts from a few more seconds to a minute and then I start making mistakes again. Yup, thinking about something again else does that. After about 10 minutes of that I just stop because I'm not going to be able to concentrate well enough to accomplish anything and I'll resume later and see if it's any better.
Sometimes this will happen for days on end and others I have great focus and can go for hours. I wish I knew what the variables are that make it difficult to concentrate so I could address that and hone in on what I'm doing at will. It's very frustrating. Maybe I'll figure it out eventually. I'm pretty sure age is a factor. I feel that working on things like that is good exercise for my brain. It's also good for my arthritis. Especially my fingerboard hand. After I play for a long time my knuckles feel better.
Today is one of those days where I can't concentrate. I'll try again la....... Ohhhhh squirrel......
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Post by gbfun on Jul 21, 2022 4:52:05 GMT -5
Hey ninworks... Been there, done that...in pool and music ! It always seems to boil down to how much sleep, the quality of sleep, allergies, and drinking any sugary drink for me. Oh...and excessively loud music. I'm sure that's not all on the list because there's a whole world of medicines that mess with our heads. Plus too much cortisol/stress sometimes. I've noticed two different types of lack of concentration. One is the type that might just take longer before focus shows up, and the other is...forget it today...even if you push through it, it won't be fun and/or worth it ! I do push through it though, as much as possible. But on bad days, practicing nuanced stuff is not only a trainwreck, it's not good for muscle memory either. Or confidence. But taking a day off is often counterproductive too. I just shift gears and practice something simple. So I hear ya. I think you need to figure out why your concentration goes south. And don't buy the old age crap...a lot of old guys at the pool tables have tremendously icy, steely, deadly...concentration, trust me ! I could be shooting tough pool and well into the zone, then have one can of cola, and be unable to focus on the shot...no matter how hard I try ! It's like my brain got switched off. Allergies can do this too sometimes. And if I haven't slept well...I'm in big trouble. Yeah, it's scary stuff to me. And I had cola before I practiced guitar a couple of days ago to test my surprising blood pressure readings lately. And OMG. My timing went off, I could only play parts of a phrase, and I was just "off" for hours ! Not fun at ALL. But what your trigger is, you'll have to find out. It's probably something completely different. And I don't know exactly why this is, but when I drink tea before practice(4 times now), not only can I concentrate fine, my blood pressure drops 10 points ! Perhaps my playing is putting me to sleep ? Nah, I was beating the guitar to death with hammer on/pull offs and enthusiastic picking runs ! For hours. And I was in the zone, no doubt ! (Don't know if it's just the tea or not. But I was deeply surprised at a 10 point drop in BP ! 4 times this happened) Anyway, I get in the zone most days(tea or not)...except when triggered. Gotta find your trigger. It's likely something that's affecting your brain chemical balance somehow ! Could be food, drugs, lack of exercise and/or sleep, emotional upset...anything. Not enough microphones... Something !
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Post by ninworks on Jul 21, 2022 7:34:46 GMT -5
I agree about pushing through and messing up muscle memory. That is the main reason why I stop. Over the years I have learned to place an extremely high value on the "figuring it out" phase so I do it correctly for how I play. If I don't do it properly then there will be a point somewhere down the line, usually when trying to execute it faster than I learned it, that the technique doesn't work and I'll have to work it out and do it a different way. That means unlearning how I did it the first time and relearning it so I can do it right. That's a LOT harder than doing it correctly the first time. It takes me considerably longer than twice as long to do that. What I mean by "correctly" is that I'm doing it so it suits my style and technique. That definition can vary from person to person but there are some generalities that apply to most people. The "Not enough microphones" comment literally cracked me up. I actually unloaded one recently. That's a rarity for me. I traded it for more recording gear so I guess it wasn't totally out of character for me.
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Post by ninworks on Jul 22, 2022 7:02:26 GMT -5
The concentration has been good for a few days in a row. I think it's good more than it's bad but it still frustrates me when it doesn't work like I want it to.
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Post by Leftee on Jul 22, 2022 7:52:53 GMT -5
I know this. But with me it's more about building guitars. When my concentration is not high there are certain things I just don't undertake on the workbench.
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Post by gbfun on Jul 23, 2022 8:01:48 GMT -5
They say a wise man knows his limits ! Glad to hear the concentration is back. I correctly or incorrectly refer to it as "being in the zone" and once in it, time just disappears ! I think the more one tries to get there, the easier it gets...except...on *those* days. And being in the zone is a mental thing. For example, one's fingers can be especially accurate and fast on some days while in the zone, and slow and clumsy on other days while in the zone. Since I can get in the zone pretty easy now, I am more frustrated with wide swings in finger control from day to day, depending on food and sleep etc. I've learned to even things out better by warming up a half hour or more unplugged first. Then I can launch into playing, and hearing myself plugged in, with already warmed up hands ! This takes a lot of potential frustration out of the process for me because all I HEAR is my best...and I can let my subconscious do it's thing...or I've got my best control under conscious creativity to play with. MUCH more satisfying ! And, I'll admit it, I've actually managed to sprain or strain my finger joints if I try to do too much before my hands are warmed up ! Then I potentially have issues for DAYS. And my progress stalls. No thanks ! So I routinely warm up now unplugged, while listening to the latest stupidity on the radio. Then I forget it all and just play ! Afterwards, I pop back into reality and look up at the clock to see if I missed an appointment...or two...and sometimes I do ! For the guitar is it's own universe...and there's a ton of stuff to explore...even without changing sounds. Thankfully, there's more good days than bad. And on those GREAT DAYS....wow....that's really, really awesome ! I live for the GREAT days. I only get a couple a year so far...if lucky. And if I have to slog through a long journey of marginal days to get there...it's worth it. And I'll add, keeping the whole body in shape is the "infrastructure" that helps keep the hands and fingers in shape. So consistent moderate exercise is likely to support a more consistent performance of mind and body while playing guitar. Real concentration though, is it's own thing. And it's definitely a challenge in front of an audience or tryout. And it's there...or it's not ! Just gotta enjoy the good days when you get them. If only Peegoo had a Concentration Pedal to help us out ! Put the Concentration Pedal in front of the Talent Pedal going into a Delay and I'd be pretty happy myself !
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Aug 7, 2022 12:23:50 GMT -5
I've never been able to concentrate on anything unless the crap is hitting the fan; that gets my full attention. Never been diagnosed with ADHD, but I guarantee I have it.
Even when I was a wee Peegoo in school, I never could grasp the concept of "study." My brain would not focus no matter what I tried, so I never learned how to study. Yet somehow I still got good grades.
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Post by Vibroluxer on Aug 8, 2022 17:07:45 GMT -5
You coulda been talking about me. Luckily I was always able to finish projects on time but, like you, it was always very last minute.
I was taught, when I worked at IBM, that the average adult has a 15 minute attention span. I think mine is set to about 45 seconds. So that really comes into play when I'm trying to learn something new.
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Post by mikem on Oct 30, 2022 7:44:26 GMT -5
Lately I seem to focus better when a musical deadline is looming, usually some hard technical passages when I play with the symphony.
I try to keep my chops "limber" by practicing four/five times per week, one hour sessions doing scales/arpeggios/articulations/using a metronome, just in case I get a last-minute call for a gig...
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Nov 16, 2022 9:46:32 GMT -5
Old thread, but thought I'd jump in.
I have a friend who is (though she won't admit it) an Asian tiger mom. She works with her 7 year old and they get homework done, have other educational pursuits, practice the piano, and all sorts of other things. The kid is a very happy kid. This stuff is play for him. Getting him to eat dinner and go to bed are the only struggles. (Interestingly, my friend also figured out as an adult that she has ADHD and struggled through childhood, so I am watching this unfold in a very interested way.)
I've been a bit obsessed with the lack of guitar method that exists. Most of us have vague notions of "practice scales and arpreggios" but have very little idea of how to form a practice routine. Probably not as much the case for ninworks, but it is for a lot of us. In the same way Peegoo never learned "how to study", I don't think many of us have any idea how to practice. The idea of "woodshedding" comes up, but it usually just means noodling.
Real practice does take focus, and it takes energy. Strong focus takes energy, a passive focus doesn't.
I've found fiddling with everything around the guitar makes things worse. I like finding a way to practice where I'm not tempted to fuss with pedals, knobs, neck adjustments, or whatever. Just tune up and go. Sheet music and practice materials are a pain, too. I've noticed some of the most effective practicers have lists, or log what they do. It probably isn't a matter of being super anal retentive, but just keeping themselves honest. Sort of a "don't skip leg day" approach.
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Post by ninworks on Nov 17, 2022 10:08:58 GMT -5
I didn't always know how to practice. I had played for 35 years before I really learned how to do it effectively. Before that it was just figuring stuff out off recordings, endless noodling, and playing in bands. I would go to concerts as a young ninworks and see my favorite guitar player performing the same stuff I had learned off the records. I was the kid in the 4th row with binoculars focused on the guitar player's fingers.
I stumbeld across a monster of a shredder guitarist in my guitar tech's shop, who was about 17 years younger than me, in about 2004 and was blown away. I asked him if he took students and he did so I took about 8 lessons from him over the course of about a year. I video'd them so I could watch and remember everything in the lessons. He taught me how to practice and figure out how to do it in a way so I could learn to execute things I didn't have the ability to do. That in itself was well worth the cost of admission. He also gave me some guidance to overcome some bad techniques I had from being self-taught and not figuring them out correctly on my own. He also encouraged me to do things a bit differently from people who don't have fingers the width of a DC-10. I had to adjust my playing technique to work with my oversized fingers but was always trying to find ways to play what everyone else was doing. He let me know it was okay to leave that stuff to everyone else and focus on what I could do instead of what I couldn't and develop that to its full potential. That was huge. I became a much better guitarist because of those insights.
My biggest struggle these days has been to find the time to practice but that should change over the winter months since the biggest time vampire of keeping up with the yard work won't be there.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Nov 19, 2022 10:16:47 GMT -5
Sounds like you found a good teacher. I've been around a lot of music teachers who are great people, great guitarists, and very generous with their time and energy, but never offer those tools. Some teachers are just transcription machines... someone brings a CD, and they learn the song. Other teachers are "let's jam and see what we can come up with", some teach "scales" which just means new boxes to noodle in. I took classical lessons for a short time and this was the best opportunity I had to improve on those regards, and the closest I ever came to knowing how the heck to use a metronome productively.
Did he learn those routines from someone, or did he discover them on his own in his own pursuit?
Do you think having those routines helped with the attention part? Did having a plan help things? Sort of like how fitness enthusiasts will log their workouts? It reminds me of the "woodshed" again... wasn't the whole point of sitting in a woodshed so that no one would bother you, and your playing wouldn't be bothering anyone? I find practicing with headphones is sometimes most productive if other people are around. If you are playing loud, the temptation is to perform... you aren't going to truly practice. If you're in the "woodshed" no one cares if you're just playing a three note lick over and over again with a metronome trying to get a dotted sixteenth note to sound just right or something.
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Post by ninworks on Nov 19, 2022 13:27:14 GMT -5
Sounds like you found a good teacher. I've been around a lot of music teachers who are great people, great guitarists, and very generous with their time and energy, but never offer those tools. Some teachers are just transcription machines... someone brings a CD, and they learn the song. Other teachers are "let's jam and see what we can come up with", some teach "scales" which just means new boxes to noodle in. I took classical lessons for a short time and this was the best opportunity I had to improve on those regards, and the closest I ever came to knowing how the heck to use a metronome productively. Did he learn those routines from someone, or did he discover them on his own in his own pursuit? Do you think having those routines helped with the attention part? Did having a plan help things? Sort of like how fitness enthusiasts will log their workouts? It reminds me of the "woodshed" again... wasn't the whole point of sitting in a woodshed so that no one would bother you, and your playing wouldn't be bothering anyone? I find practicing with headphones is sometimes most productive if other people are around. If you are playing loud, the temptation is to perform... you aren't going to truly practice. If you're in the "woodshed" no one cares if you're just playing a three note lick over and over again with a metronome trying to get a dotted sixteenth note to sound just right or something. Here's my reply in "novel" format. I was very fortunate to find my "teacher." He knew I was far from a beginner at the start because he had heard me play at the guitar tech's shop. At first I came to him with some specific goals. I wanted to learn how to sweep pick. I was primarily an economy picker so I also wanted to learn how to alternate pick better. I didn't need any theory instruction because I knew it as well as he did. That helped us communicate at a high level and streamlined the instruction process considerably. After I had some guidance with those two items I expanded my 'wants' list to include remedying some of my technical problems from being self taught. I once came to him complaining about how my hands tired quickly when practicing. He looked at how I was holding my hands and my posture, and made some priceless suggestions that fixed my issues. I think he was basically a self-taught guitarist with just an amazing level of talent but I wouldn't be surprised if he had some technical instruction along the way. He obviosly had some theory training but I'm not clear on how he acquired it. I think he may have gotten some of his technical skills from watching Paul Gilbert instructional videos. He used a lot of the same descriptions that I recognized when he would show me things. I have great musical ears so figuring things out from recordings was easy for me. I didn't need any help with that. He also offered transcription services or would just jam if that's what you wanted. I didn't need the scale practices other than he helped me find other ways to execute what I already and expand on that. He helped me with playing arpeggios. That's something I wasn't great at but I recognized the need to do it better so we spent some time working on that. He would show me how to expand things I already knew in a way that worked with my oversized fingers and hands. He had a couple specifics but most of it was conceptual and different from how I typically approached things. Basically just looking at things from a different angle and thinking outside of the box (not the fingering position boxes but the musical approach ones). Since I already knew the fingerboard backward and forward we were able to focus the instruction on specific things and didn't have to spend any time on the basics. Most of my issues were picking techniques. He was very generous. He told me he would be more than happy to show me anything he knew at any time. He once told me I was the only student he ever had with such focused and particular areas I wanted to learn or improve on. I took that as a compliment. I'm not sure I would have gotten that level of pinpointed help if I hadn't been so specific. Unfortunately, he died of complications from diabetes about 6 years ago. Long after I had stopped taking instruction from him. We had become good friends and had a lot of respect for each other's abilities. He told me many times that I didn't need lessons but I knew better. I practice in headphones most of the time. The only times I don't is when Mrs. Ninworks isn't home and that's not very often. I already knew how to use a metronome from my piano lesson days as a kid but seldom used one. After meeting him that changed. I still use one extensively and my sense of time has improved one hundred fold. I discovered many different ways to use a metronome to help stifle the boredom that can come from playing repetitive exercises with one for extended periods of time like playing on the up-beat of the click instead of the down-beat, starting on beat 2 or 3 or 4 of a phrase and continuing that way for awhile as well as starting on the up-beat of 2, 3, or 4. I always mix it up to help keep my concentration. If it keeps changing then I have to pay attention to what I'm doing but, there are times when my head just isn't in it and remaining focused is impossible. That's when I take a break. I also practice scales and arpeggios using dynamics and accents to break up the boredom. For example, picking softly, picking at a regular velocity, picking hard, using crescendos and decrescendos. accenting particular beats, or off-beats, in the measure and changing that up using different ones, legato, stacatto, etc. etc. One method I use when developing a complicated exercise is to play it very stacatto and very lightly. I don't know what it is about doing it that way but it is very effective for me. He taught me how to practice and develop long, fast-moving, passages by breaking them up into smaller sections and then keep adding onto them a few notes at a time until the entire thing was playable. That was eye-opening. It's something I had realized at a gut-level but had never put into practice. Him pointing it out was priceless. Having a plan was definitely the right thing for me. I was able to target areas I knew I had problems with and work on specific remedies. I keep tabs on my progress but don't have a log book. However, I do have a guitar practicing program I use to make up and store exercises with. It allows me to keep track of my progress by storing the exercises and the tempos I have been working on them at. I have literally hundreds of exercises I have made up over the years to work on specific technical areas I need or needed to work on. Every now and then I will go back and review ones that I had gotten as far as I thought I needed to and moved on to others. That has been extremely helpful.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Nov 19, 2022 16:19:04 GMT -5
Nah, novel is good! This stuff has been on my mind daily as I've been discovering new music from unexpected places and also have been dealing with musicians on a daily basis. I may change my mind in a week or two, but I really think the future of music depends on refining this stuff.
The focus on posture/technique is great, too. I can't tell you how many people I get in my shop that have self-inflicted plateaus, sometimes resulting in injury. Of course, the "my hands are too small" defense gets employed. It makes me wonder if small hand people are especially blessed because they are forced to learn good technique just to get the chord shapes and scale patterns. They can't just lank their way over and cheat.
Regarding concentration, I am thinking of a book I have sitting on my dresser right now, Peak Mind by Amishi Jha. She talks about studying a mindfulness program to help draw attention back in. The book isn't as much of a "how-to" as the title implies, but it is still an interesting read. I have definitely noticed that when I practice, I can sit and play for 10 minutes and feel like several hours have gone by, but if I scroll on my phone, 40 minutes can go by and it'll feel like 5 minutes. Jha resists the temptation to just blame all attention issues on modern tech, though I'm sure it is a part of it. It is just a fact of life, especially since modern occupations involve prolonged use of a given type of focus.
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Post by ninworks on Nov 22, 2022 9:07:29 GMT -5
I don't believe there really is a way to 'cheat.' If one has physical limitations be it small or large hands, fat, skinny, or oddly shaped fingers etc, there is likely a way to execute particular techniques that may be different from the conventional way of doing it. If one is 'lanking' their way through something then IMO it's because of their commitment to playing or their limited experience and/or ability to figure out how to do it. My instructor helped me to realize I don't have to be able to play everything everyone else does in the same way they do. There may be some things that one just can't do for physical reasons. Sometimes it takes someone else to point that out if you can't realize it yourself. My teacher helped me with that. My thoughts on that now are that if I absolutely cannot execute something in the way ________ (your favorite guitarist) does it then find at least 2 other ways to do something different that will work in the same situation.
I have most certainly had to modify my approach to playing due to my large hands, fat and short fingers but that can be a blessing as well as a curse. Chords with open strings in the lower end of the neck are my kryptonite. My banana fingers just don't work well on the narrow part of the neck unless it's a nylon string classical or the neck has an extra wide nut width. If it's necessary for me to play something with open strings, I have a guitar that's strung with heavier gauge strings I can tune to either a C or D standard tuning. I use a capo to get up the neck a ways where it is wider to give me extra real estate for my fat fingers to operate in.
I have very short thumbs so fretting notes over the top of neck is practically impossible for me. I can do it sometimes but that is very dependent upon what is going on with the other fingers and what strings they are manipulating. That's something I seldom even attempt because it doesn't work for me almost all of the time.
I play lots of chords that have notes on two adjacent strings in the same fret with the tip of one finger out of necessity. I learned at a young age that if I don't there is no way to fit two fingers into that space and get the notes to speak. That's the curse part. The blessing part is that it frees up a finger, usually my pinky, to do other things that many people can't do.
I have also had to learn to use my pinky finger extensively out of necessity. It is the smallest of my fingers so it gets used in situations that can make chord fingerings look very strange but I get it done. Using it so much has made that finger have the ability to do as many things as well as all the others. I can do insane vibrato stuff with it as well.
Having fat fingers has also taught me to use less notes in my chord voicings. That was an unexpected benefit that taught me how to voice chords using notes that fit in and around other instruments and vocals to stay out of their frequency ranges and not cover them up. That's priceless when making up guitar parts for songs and fitting them into existing arrangements when recording.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Nov 22, 2022 10:31:24 GMT -5
Well, let me give an example of "cheating". I do think you can cheat... you just can't keep it up for long and make progress. I've noticed that a LOT of guys who complain about small hands (but actually have medium to large size paws) are tucking the back of the neck into their palm, with their thumb pointed out into nowhere, and their elbows pulled in. I suspect this came because a whole generation learned to play on junkie old dept store guitars with high action, and their first steps were just mustering as much brute force as they could to get the strings to touch the frets. If your fingers are long enough, you can get enough reach for pentatonic licks, basic chord shapes, and so forth. If a person with small hands tried this, they couldn't even get the cowboy chords. They have no choice but to (perhaps unconsciously) adjust their posture to get the reach VERY early in the learning process, maybe as early as trying to get your middle finger all the way up for an open G chord. In other words, the big hand people will develop bad habits, the small hand people won't make it far enough to develop bad habits and are forced to fix it earlier.
I was definitely a big hand/death grip player in my first few years. I did a lot of thumb wrapping, and was surprised other people couldn't do it. When I got my 5-string bass in high school, that was when it hit me that I couldn't keep holding a neck like that. Had I never done that, I probably would still be a death grip player. My dad is a "tuck the neck in the palm" guy, and when he'd pick up my classical he'd try to play it that way and insist the guitar was unplayable.
I think of Hendrix often with these arguments. How he could play anything with those giant, double jointed fingers. But, we also don't know what his playing would have sounded during a middle or late career. For all we know, had he lived into his 50s or 60s he might have wrist problems like everyone else. Dude died at 27. We just have no way to know. He did have a very light touch which helped a lot, but who knows.
Oh, another thought... I think there is an optical illusion that when correct posture is used, a player's fingers LOOK longer. I noticed this watching a female guitarist who seemed to have very long fingers. But, I stop the video at a few points, and she has very feminine hands... not tiny, but a long way from "man hands". When fingers aren't tied up in knots but are straight up and down with the elbow in a relaxed position they just look more spidery. Sort of like how good posture can make a short person look taller and vice versa. Maybe that is another reason for the "big hands make better players" myth.
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Post by ninworks on Nov 22, 2022 11:13:12 GMT -5
I can agree with your points with exclusions. I don't necessarily think it's cheating as much as it is either lack of experience or training or ego. Many people grip the neck like a shovel and get by with it. There is a time and place for that but it shouldn't be your default hand position. I learned to be a thumb-behind-the-neck player early on but still use the shovel grip when doing large bends and vibratos. It wasn't something I was shown how to do but I think I just figured it out because it made certain things easier to play. It's been so long ago that I really don't remember how I found it. I may have seen someone else do it and tried it out. I dunno. I have even seen seasoned players use that grip and insist that's how it should be done. OK, that's fine but I'd like to see you play Flight Of The Bumblebee all the way through using that hand position. Even if they could execute it I don't think they'd get all the way through due to fatigue. Many players have no aspirations of playing at that level and that's fine for them but don't tell me their way is the only way it should be done. I know better. In my younger and chickenier days anytime someone would tell me I was doing it wrong I was hard-headed enough to tell them they were wrong.
I started playing when I was 10 so my hands weren't big then. As I got older I realized I had to modify my grip and fingering just to be able to play. I know HOW to do it like everyone else I just don't a lot of the time out of necessity.
Carpal Tunnel caught up with me in my late 40's in both wrists and required surgery to repair them. I used to beat the crap out of my guitars. I think it was from practicing without and amp on a solid body guitar when I was growing up due to family pressures about making too much noise with the amp. I hammered it just so I could hear it. I was in the no-pain-no-gain camp because that's what I had always heard. Now I know better. It's funny how I never break strings anymore. I used to do it all the time.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Nov 23, 2022 10:32:39 GMT -5
I went back and watched the videos of the women playing again, and I think I'm slightly misdiagnosing the issue.
Thumb wrapping isn't that big of a deal. In open position, it is normal to have the thumb sticking out of the top. That seems to happen with even the cleanest technique. I think a better way to describe what I'm seeing is using the center of the palm and the counterpoint to fretting. Imagine that, without the neck in the way, you're just driving your fingertips into the palm of your hand. Maybe something like having a pair of wire cutters and trying really hard to cut through something thick. You squeeze really hard, and feel your hole arm and shoulder tense up.
I think we're also seeing the same thing, but calling it different things. When I'm seeing it, it is a constant clenching. Doing a quick grab for a big vibrato is fine - SRV did that all the time, but then would loosen up for the other riffs. If he didn't, he'd never be able to play the stuff he does. The lead players with the death grip rarely can go outside of the boxes where the index finger can just anchor in one fret, because it is just locked in like a giant capo. Then you're doing an hours long isometric in bad form, and that is a recipe for disaster. I might be biased because I'm getting a lot of older men complaining about wrist problems, but from my standpoint it seems like eventual injury is more likely than no if you have that kind of technique.
I think I mentioned it, but one particular customer that wanted extra lights and low action on a Guild acoustic because of wrist problems had very clear wear patterns on the back of his neck. I tried playing with my hand in his position, and it hurt after just a few seconds. Imagine doing open chords with the back of your hand jammed up at the top of the back of the neck, with your thumb hovering above the bass side of the neck, between the nut and tuner. It was a small miracle that he made it to his 50s or 60s before having problems.
Unfortunately, light strings and low action don't help any of this unless you lighten your grip. When I have to describe it to someone, I usually use a computer keyboard as an example. If you're smacking every key, putting your back into it every time, you're going to get tired typing. It won't matter if you're using a clunky old keyboard from the '80s or a new keyboard that requires a very light touch, if you're typing the same way, you're still using the same energy and it will tire you out (and maybe hurt you) at the exact same rate.
Things might be getting better. A few years ago, there was a constant stream of player-inflicted guitar problems. Out of tune from bending strings into the fret, buzzing from hitting too hard, and so on. It is more rare now. Maybe in the age of YouTube as people watch guitarists in high def they're figuring this stuff out piece by piece.
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