gdw3
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Post by gdw3 on Aug 1, 2022 13:52:32 GMT -5
I have an '06 AmSe Strat which has a maple neck and board, so it was already pretty bright. It needed new frets, so I had stainless steel frets installed. I love how they play. Everything is easier. But, as you've guessed by now, the guitar is even brighter sounding now, leaning toward harshness. I use D'Addario NYXL strings, which are pretty bright themselves, which I like on my guitars with hummies. But I'm thinking maybe a string type change might reign in some of that brightness. I have used D'Addario for many years, and would like to stick with them, if I can find the right thing. Maybe the pure nickel set? Or would that be too mellow? I'm a rock and funk and blues player.
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Post by LeftyMeister on Aug 1, 2022 14:23:21 GMT -5
I've been using nickel for decades. Love the sound!
Elixir makes a coated string for electrics but, from my experience, they leave string poop on your pickguard. Maybe they've improved thru the years.
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gdw3
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Post by gdw3 on Aug 1, 2022 14:35:29 GMT -5
You're talking pure nickel, and not nickel wound, yes? I think the nickel wound might be slightly less bright, but probably not a noticeable amount.
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Post by Leftee on Aug 1, 2022 15:28:41 GMT -5
I would go to pure nickel. Note that this only pertains to the wrapped strings. But they are a less-bright tone.
It won’t cost you much to try a set. 😉
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Post by sirWheat on Aug 1, 2022 19:22:23 GMT -5
Another vote for pure nickel. I love 'em.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Aug 2, 2022 1:27:55 GMT -5
If you like your current strings and how they play, leave 'em on there and start using the onboard tone control.
It does exactly what you're asking about.
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Post by reverendrob on Aug 2, 2022 3:06:59 GMT -5
^Peegoo.
Also adjust your amp settings.
Consider light compression/EQ as well.
It's why I have parametrics on hand!
(And my not-so secret weapon, my master channel split to every amp is run through a Pultec EQP clone for that boost/cut interactive magic!)
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Post by DrKev on Aug 2, 2022 3:55:47 GMT -5
If you like your current strings and how they play, leave 'em on there and start using the onboard tone control. It does exactly what you're asking about. Yes, AND/OR use a longer cable. I'm using standard nickel wound (which are nickel plated steel), not as bright as stainless wrap, brighter than pure nickel wound. With those strings I have not noticed any change in tone with stainless steel frets vs nickel silver frets. How do NYXL compare in brightness to standard strings?
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Post by reverendrob on Aug 2, 2022 6:06:17 GMT -5
The NYXL are somewhere between the EB Slinky I tried and the old standby Fender Stainless that are not in production any more.
I got a few sets free in their beta test - they do as advertised, just are blisteringly expensive.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Aug 2, 2022 13:01:47 GMT -5
To my ears, SS frets aren't so much brighter as they have a harder attack to them. More snap, less bloom. NYXLs also have lots of snap, so switching away from them probably will help - even just switching to regular slinkies or something might be sufficient for your ears. D'Addario in general sounds slightly more snappy than other brands to me. Maybe try Fender strings? Made by D'Addario, but a different formula? The Fender pure nickel are my personal favorites, among the every-day priced sets. Heck, changing gauges or using different picks could get you somewhere you want to be, too. I really only ever hear the difference in fret materials on Strats & Teles. 9/10 times one of my clients wants SS frets it is in an acoustic because they beat out the cowboy chord positions so quickly. The difference is barely noticeable on those - definitely there, but in a way that I bet most players wouldn't hear it.
If you REALLY wanted to go nuts you could reinvent the instrument around the frets - brass block or something - but that doesn't seem like the ideal solution here.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Aug 2, 2022 14:13:59 GMT -5
If you like your current strings and how they play, leave 'em on there and start using the onboard tone control. It does exactly what you're asking about. Yes, AND/OR use a longer cable. I'm using standard nickel wound (which are nickel plated steel), not as bright as stainless wrap, brighter than pure nickel wound. With those strings I have not noticed any change in tone with stainless steel frets vs nickel silver frets. How do NYXL compare in brightness to standard strings? A coily cable will increase capacitance and tame some of the icepick even more.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Aug 4, 2022 8:53:22 GMT -5
My only experience with SS frets was with a refret on my #1 Partscaster and I have not detected any change in terms of tone. In fact I've replaced the pots, cap and trem block and to my ears it still sounds like the same guitar. I use Ernie Ball Regular Slinkys and for a time used their Classic Rock & Roll set. I definitely found the latter mellower so aside from tone pot tweaking/amp settings I'd try pure nickel strings.
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Post by waxbytes on Aug 4, 2022 20:35:12 GMT -5
Just turn it up loud for a while, the brightness will soon go away.
[that's a joke, don't turn up.]
Pure Nickle is mellower than nickle plated and lasts a bit longer too.
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Post by samspade on Aug 5, 2022 18:46:07 GMT -5
If trying strings is what you want to do first, try DR Pure Blues Nickel and go a set higher. They compression wind over a hex core, which make them feel slinkier could be bs, but I sense it. I'm usually on D'Addario otherwise. Correcting...I checked and it is a round core, so I must have mis-remembered lol
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Post by Leftee on Aug 5, 2022 21:06:34 GMT -5
With all these suggestions for pure nickels…
The plain strings are still steel. Pure nickel only refers to the windings of the would strings.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Aug 5, 2022 21:45:37 GMT -5
With all these suggestions for pure nickels… The plain strings are still steel. Pure nickel only refers to the windings of the would strings. Correct.
Though, when we're talking NYXL, I think that is one of the rare instances where there are qualitative differences in the unwound strings. I might be wrong on that - I mostly work on acoustics these days.
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Post by cedarchoper58 on Aug 9, 2022 17:26:39 GMT -5
GHS Nickle rockers are pure nickle androller burnished which makes them already broke in (dull sounding) right out of the pack and they feel great
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Post by samspade on Aug 10, 2022 18:26:54 GMT -5
you could try my method...hardly change your strings, lol. I usually do this with .011's, but now I keep until I break one, even with other gauges.
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