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Post by Larry Madsen on Aug 4, 2022 21:52:11 GMT -5
I like the old Super Speed bass drum pedals and have one for my big kit in the music room. Its Slingerland like the rest of the kit. This: IMG_3792 by Larry Madsen, on Flickr Then I have the high-hat stand, which has the older more commonly seen pedal on it. This: IMG_3793 by Larry Madsen, on Flickr When I put my smaller Slingerland kit together a while back I got another high-hat stand and another Super Speed bass pedal. As things sat around ... over time I got the crazy thought. Why can't I switch the foot pad portion of the two new pieces and make the pairs match. It was a little more complex than just switching the foot pads. The straps that connect the mechanism both had to be remade to get the lengths correct and functional. End result I now have a Super Speed Bass pedal and a high hat stand with a matching super speed foot pad to match. Then for the smaller kit I have the older style high-hat and a Super Speed bass pedal with the older foot pad. Here are the two pedals I reversed foot pads on. IMG_3794 by Larry Madsen, on Flickr Like I said, "Silly Drum Project".
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Post by gbfun on Aug 5, 2022 3:08:19 GMT -5
Well, congrats on making that work ! I'd say that's definitely a 1st World kind of problem though ! But sometimes, a guy just has to please himself
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Post by Grizbear-NJ on Aug 6, 2022 13:55:16 GMT -5
Hey Larry; nice job on the pedal changeover. I fully agree: "It was a little more complex than just switching the foot pedals." It always is; that's by manufacturers design. On a quick look at the width of the arches (they hold the pedal action mechanism in place) they are different measurements. The toe point of the pedals need to sit within that distance without hitting the sides. (The ones you used did.) I have to check my books, but I think that era of straps were leather. The newer models are of a plastic composition.
I am aware of that information because when I repair both, bass drum pedals and high hat stand pedals, I try to switch to the new plastic material. (If possible) The plastic strapping holds up better to the wear & tear. I also find the plastic strapping material easier to work with. The same thing applies to snare drums. On the older snare drums. the "snare springs" were designed to utilize a string material to attach it to the snare strainer set up on both ends. The newer snare springs have both the string and the strap cutouts on them giving you the option. Technicians Note: I recommend changing the snare springs every two (2) years for an active gigging drummer.
You are lucky that you decided to changeover the pedals from the same manufacturer. (Even though they were different years and models.) If you had tried to do that project with different manufacturers equipment; you would have thrown that project right out the window!
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Post by Larry Madsen on Aug 6, 2022 17:54:04 GMT -5
The heel attachment is identical. That is really what made the swap possible. IMG_3800[1] by Larry Madsen, on Flickr Out front at the toe, the strap attachment point on the super speed is dropped down by about 1/2". That is where the difference in "actuator" strap became necessary. IMG_3801[1] by Larry Madsen, on Flickr The straps are steel. This is the original one from the high hat. I needed a longer strap due to the dropped attachment point of the super speed foot pad. For the bass pedal I needed to lengthen it. IMG_3802[1] by Larry Madsen, on Flickr
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Post by Grizbear-NJ on Aug 6, 2022 22:33:19 GMT -5
Very familiar with the metal clips. Usually when I get them, the clips are broken or deformed in some way. That's when I use the plastic straps to fabricate a replacement part. I may heat the plastic straps in warm/hot water to make them more pliable, and double wrap the pedal to the bracket. (That normally works) I usually adjust the strap length according to what the drummer needs. (Some guys are really rough on pedals with their heavy feet.) The mechanical adjustments on both the bass pedals and high hats are limited; so allow enough "wiggle" room with the strap length.
Keep in mind I refurbish (not restore). My experience with "new" metal clips is that they need to be heated to bend them into place. Which is why I prefer the plastic straps. Much easier and faster to work with in doing repairs.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Aug 7, 2022 10:30:00 GMT -5
I made my new straps with steel. Bent to length and shape. Installed a section of 3/16” brake line tubing as a sleeve for the pin and welded end (flaps) secure.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Aug 7, 2022 12:18:54 GMT -5
Dudes! I love me some DIY stuff like this.
Bravolingus!
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Post by Grizbear-NJ on Aug 8, 2022 10:26:48 GMT -5
My dear friend PEEGOO; if you like that DIY stuff, you are going to love this. A friend of mine does custom leather work (belts, holsters, etcetera). He gave me his old set of leather working tools, and some material he wanted to get rid of. After careful thought & perusal, (and a couple of adult beverages), I figured a way to use those tools and materials when working with the plastic/nylon I utilize. I now "stitch" the strapping material together instead of the more traditional methods I used before.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Aug 19, 2022 20:54:52 GMT -5
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