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Post by ninworks on Oct 16, 2022 16:31:45 GMT -5
I have 3 capos and none of them work worth beans on the Taylor 12 string. The little strings next to the big ones keep buzzing. I think I need a capo with softer rubber on it or something.
Any recmmendations?
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Post by budg on Oct 16, 2022 17:36:14 GMT -5
I have 3 capos and none of them work worth beans on the Taylor 12 string. The little strings next to the big ones keep buzzing. I think I need a capo with softer rubber on it or something. Any recmmendations? If memory serves me correctly, Kyser makes a capo especially for a 12 string. I had one and it worked great. |
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Post by jeffscott on Oct 17, 2022 1:18:13 GMT -5
There are specialty capos out there for 12-string, but the NS capo I use with my Yamamoto MS-12 works just fine. One of these years, maybe I will check out other capos for it.
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Post by Bopper on Oct 17, 2022 8:34:21 GMT -5
specialty capos out there for 12-string Here's what Elderly has...
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Post by Ayns on Oct 17, 2022 13:31:16 GMT -5
I had a similar problem with my Taylor 355 12 string a few years ago.
My first solution was a Paige 12 string capo, but it *didn’t* work for me at all.
I then tried a Shubb and it worked pretty well.
I don’t know why, but I then went for a G7th Newport capo ( coz I don’t like the standard G7th capo *at all*) and I love it. Works great on 6 strings as well.
Good luck. :-)
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Post by larryguitar54 on Oct 17, 2022 23:28:27 GMT -5
I have tried them all and go with the Shubb because I can adjust the tension and clamp down hard. It throws the larger strings out of intonation but you just have to gut it out and retune.
Here is what I figured out a long time ago. There is no short cut to tuning a 12 string with or without a capo. You cannot use the 5th string relative turning method because even after you tune the tightness of your grip will change it anyway.
The solution is to develop your approximation of perfect pitch and find an average that sounds right with the strings open with the low strings detuned just a hair. That way when you capo it drifts in to the correct pitch and then you learn to loosen you grip and not try to eliminate the buzz by mashing down on the string.
At home you have all the time in the world to get it right. But on stage and in a changing humid environment it is hopeless. If you try this on stage you are going to irritate you audience.
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Post by ninworks on Oct 18, 2022 6:16:46 GMT -5
My main reason for wanting a capo is so I can use open strings. That's what makes acoustic guitars sound good IMO. Well, any guitar for that matter but especially acoustics. If the little strings buzz because the capo is not holding them down agains the fret it's a deal breaker for me. As long as 12 strings have been around I can't imagine that problem hasn't been dealt with by the capo manufacturers. I may be wrong but it seems to me that if you had the correct tension and rubber/plastic it would do the job. I don't know what the term is for rubber hardness in tubing but with o-rings it's called the durometer. I'm going to try some of the suggestions to see if I can find one that's workable. If not, I may have to design and make or modify one. This one looks promising.... www.elderly.com/products/paige-clik-eti-12-string-guitar-capo?variant=41774369013951 |
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Post by 009 on Oct 18, 2022 7:12:59 GMT -5
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Post by ninworks on Oct 18, 2022 7:31:08 GMT -5
I saw that but the video is 10 years old. The new video on their website shows a whole different design although it shows a 6 string capo. The only similarity is the clamping mechanism. The 12 string model shows different pads that contact the strings.
I ordered one from Sweetwater. I'll have to wait and see what I get. If it doesn't work I'll send it back.
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Post by Ayns on Oct 18, 2022 10:18:23 GMT -5
Just to recap, I really didn’t like the Paige 12 string capo I bought. Maybe I was setting it up wrong.
I love the G7th Newport 12 string capo as it has soft rubber and has a “compensated” string pad. I can’t recommend it highly enough :-)
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Post by LesTele on Oct 18, 2022 13:12:41 GMT -5
I mentioned in the thread encouraging you to buy the Taylor that I’ve has a twelve string around at all times over the past 40 years.
My capo of choice is an early nineties brass Shubb. Never had any problems
It’s a 6 string capo but it works well. The tension screw on the back needs a bit of adjustment when switching instruments.
It may just be down to the versatility of early nineties rubber.
Good luck in your search.
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Post by ninworks on Oct 22, 2022 16:16:17 GMT -5
I got the Paige capo I mentioned in the earlier post. It works great. No buzzes and it doesn't require a ridiculous amount of clamping forse to fret the strings. So far so good. I'm curious to find out how well it works when leaving one or more of the string pads out so open strings can ring out. That will be interesting and should manifest itself in some strange alternate tunings without having to tweak the tuners.
My God I suck playing 12 string. I'm not used to the extra force required to play it. Being primarily an electric guitar player who has used very light gauge strings for most of my life, it's going to take me awhile to acclimate to it, if I ever do.
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Post by 6l6 on Nov 10, 2022 13:30:25 GMT -5
I use a VICTOR capo designed for 12 string acoustics. Works GREAT! 6  |
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Post by oldnjplayer on Nov 18, 2022 18:59:29 GMT -5
I use both a keyser and schubb capos made for 12 strings, on my taylor 455. Both work for me.
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Post by oldfartbassplayrwalt on Jun 28, 2023 19:39:01 GMT -5
hah- back in the 60s, I had a no-name acoustic 12 string, with a DeArmond pickup permanently installed in the sound hole. Plugged into a trusty Silvertone twin twelve, it was a cheap way to get a garage-band Beatles/Byrds/BuffSpringfield sound. Problem was that it HAD to be tuned down 3 halfsteps. Not willing to transpose, I used one of those Dunlop capo's with the elastic strap, to bring me back to normal tuning. BUT the difference in string thickness produced fatal buzzing. I ended up gluing plastic 'shims' to the capo barre to compensate on each of the four high octave strings. Since I NEVER moved the capo, the solution worked well. I assume this is NOT an option for you NinWorks?  |
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Post by ninworks on Jun 28, 2023 19:57:06 GMT -5
I got one of these and it works well. You just can't put it on quickly. It requires some adjustment to get all the string pads in the right places. As you move it higher up the fingerboard the string spacing changes so the pads have to be moved. There are some interesting possibilities for strange tunings by leaving some of the string pads out and leaving open strings. I haven't done that yet but the idea intrigues me. www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PC-12-ETI--paige-clik-pc-12-eti-12-string-guitar-capo |
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Post by rickyguitar on Jun 29, 2023 11:52:35 GMT -5
^looks interesting. I bought a Kyser with my new 12. Works fine.
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