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Post by oldnjplayer on Oct 16, 2022 19:28:23 GMT -5
Just saw a full page add in Sundays Times advertising new product. Telecaster that is made to every original specification from 1952. It lists all of Leo Fenders specifications from wood etc,. This add had to have been a fortune. Anyone see similar add in any other place. |
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Post by Pinetree on Oct 17, 2022 8:01:58 GMT -5
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Post by Leftee on Oct 17, 2022 8:06:26 GMT -5
I was going to start a thread on the American Vintage II series…
They do look nice. What pleasantly surprised me was a relatively large offering of lefties.
Yeah, they’re not cheap.
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Post by DrKev on Oct 17, 2022 8:56:44 GMT -5
I don't get it. I mean yeah I'm younger than many of youses guyses but I'm almost 50 and long Covid has messed everything up so maybe I'm missing something BUT does this mean now that old the past vintage spec Fenders were not quite as vintage spec as they told us? And why is the nut width not 1 5/8" if these are the most vintage correct of all the vintage correct?
Will they publish a timeline of what models are called what today and what was the same model called 2 yeras ago and ten years ago and 20 years ago? Because right now there are American Original, American Performer, American Professional II, American Ultra, American Vintage II, 24 Artist guitars, MIJ collaboration, Player, Player Plus, Vintera and Noventa strats and I gave up years ago trying to keep track of so many variations of the SAME. DARN. GUITAR.
And Fiesta Red is the worst red, Dakota Red is the best!
And get the heck off my lawn you, pesky kids! Harrumph!
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Post by samspade on Oct 17, 2022 18:33:49 GMT -5
Fender has realized that it has to issue some new sh*t to show they are busy, but it's really just a different take on the vintage series at this time, focusing on certain years and colors. I think they look good. I'm more interested in a Parallel Universe take on the Vintage Series, which just may mean different colors, but I don't want to do their product research for them  |
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Oct 17, 2022 19:07:22 GMT -5
Spot on, Doctor. But in today's marketing, choices matter. Even if the list of available choices is in name only, and not so much the actual features. |
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Post by pcalu on Oct 17, 2022 20:10:09 GMT -5
Those 63s look fantastic.
There is a market..
If your a Tele man/woman.. & you dig the design.
You get the look of simplicity, the look of Americana. It screams 1950s bad azz to you. If your looking at a Telecaster in this price point, you probably know by now your way around the design. You know the ingenuity is in the simple but true guitar's circuit, the bridge plate and the design of the pups.. You totally get that with a slight turn of a knob on the controls, it brings forth a plethora of vintage tones from woolly Jazz tones to snarl. You probably are a vintage junkie and prefer 7.25 radius necks or 9.5 at the most... You probably already know that certain pups from certain eras sound best strung with vintage pure nickel strings and some modern teles sound best with the standard modern steel core strings
I figure if someone is looking serious at these... they are where I was 20 plus yrs ago. I'd tell them... do it, it will sound better with age
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Oct 17, 2022 20:16:05 GMT -5
Yup. Mr. Potato Head.
It is possible they did some spit shine on the older American Vintage design. They've never been dead on replicas, in part because the variance in the originals is so big, so it makes sense there would be room for improvements. If that is the case, then the ad people really suck at their jobs, because it sure seems like the same thing they've had for the past 30 years, possibly different pickups, and a fancy roman numeral at the end.
They probably hope there are enough people who will see something new and jump on it, then it'll run its course and they'll have the same guitar and call it the "USA Vintage Series" instead, and hope they get another round of them to buy those.
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Post by Pinetree on Oct 17, 2022 20:24:12 GMT -5
True, but Fender has been doing this for a hundred years, and we keep falling for it.
Signed, a guy with five Strats and two Teles.
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Post by Leftee on Oct 17, 2022 20:29:32 GMT -5
I kinda want the ‘57 in seafoam green.
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Post by leftrightout on Oct 18, 2022 3:48:06 GMT -5
I kinda want the ‘57 in seafoam green. You're not the only one
only thing is i don't want one at that price down under they are retailing at $3600 ($2225 USD)
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Post by markfromhawaii on Oct 18, 2022 6:03:42 GMT -5
After all the brouhaha about no ash guitars, Fender launches their American Vintage II ‘51 Tele with a solid ash body. Well played Fender. Well played.
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Post by reverendrob on Oct 18, 2022 6:52:11 GMT -5
I haven't been interested in Fenders since being able and willing to shell out for a MIA product and to find that I could get Les Pauls (and not the dirt cheapies) for the same as any MIA Fender I'd consider an upgrade.
At the same time, the Squiers got better, and the MIMs hit MIA price points.
I've either bought Ibanez or Gibson for the last half dozen (mostly Gibson).
The last Fender thing that kept me in the family so to speak was the stainless strings I'd been playing for 25+ years.
Then Disney Store cancelled those too while putting out a plethora of "what the hell" offsets that were in body shape only.
And the Mustang amps became "phone app only" with NO PC options.
I didn't leave Fender, it left me.
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Post by Leftee on Oct 18, 2022 7:54:00 GMT -5
I kinda want the ‘57 in seafoam green. You're not the only one
only thing is i don't want one at that price down under they are retailing at $3600 ($2225 USD)
If a nice used one showed up for less than $1500, I might consider it. Maybe I have a hard time spending a lot on a bolt-neck guitar. |
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Post by LeftyMeister on Oct 18, 2022 15:43:11 GMT -5
I would've never seen the ad because I wouldn't read that rag if you paid me.
The reason Fender keeps recycling old ideas is the same reason golf club manufacturers keep recycling old ideas. They gotta sell something to keep the lights on, even though the technology hasn't improved.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Oct 18, 2022 16:01:55 GMT -5
Unfortunately once I acquired enough skills to slap together quality parts, level frets, slot a nut and do a basic setup my consumership in Fender Strats and Teles declined. I'm sure you skilled lot would find a number of deficiencies with my work and I would never dare to compared my Fender-likes to what comes out of the factory. But to me they're "good enough". I think it's the bane of bolt on neck guitars. If disposable income came my way I think I'd still be inclined to eye a few set neck production guitars. To me the most important factor with Fender type guitars is neck profile, radius and fret size. I would have to go with the custom shop to accommodate those preferences. The last production Strat I gave a long look at was a Sherwood Green 62 Hotrod.
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Post by samspade on Oct 18, 2022 19:49:34 GMT -5
Those 63s look fantastic. There is a market.. If your a Tele man/woman.. & you dig the design. You get the look of simplicity, the look of Americana. It screams 1950s bad azz to you. If your looking at a Telecaster in this price point, you probably know by now your way around the design. You know the ingenuity is in the simple but true guitar's circuit, the bridge plate and the design of the pups.. You totally get that with a slight turn of a knob on the controls, it brings forth a plethora of vintage tones from woolly Jazz tones to snarl. You probably are a vintage junkie and prefer 7.25 radius necks or 9.5 at the most... You probably already know that certain pups from certain eras sound best strung with vintage pure nickel strings and some modern teles sound best with the standard modern steel core strings I figure if someone is looking serious at these... they are where I was 20 plus yrs ago. I'd tell them... do it, it will sound better with age Sorry  I messed up the quote, but my take on pcalu's comment I agree with this. Fender can do this because...everyone wants a vintage experience especially if they're new to playing, or maybe a few years. Yeah, you can go cheaper or to another builder that knows how to build Fenders better than Fender lol, but there is the history and pedigree. I have a few RI's...they do happen every few years, but what is now impressing me are the thin skin nitro builds that Wildwood and Dave's Guitar commissioned, 10? years ago. I have a few and they have changed as pcalu said...they sound, feel, play better. |
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Post by Leftee on Oct 19, 2022 5:32:42 GMT -5
After all the brouhaha about no ash guitars, Fender launches their American Vintage II ‘51 Tele with a solid ash body. Well played Fender. Well played. I’m guessing this might be the last hurrah for ash bodies. It’s a fitting way to go. |
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Post by Mike the marksman on Oct 19, 2022 9:08:53 GMT -5
Ugh. Same dull, ugly sunbursts they've had for years.
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Post by Leftee on Oct 19, 2022 9:12:48 GMT -5
G&L know how to do a nice sunburst.
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Post by insanecooker on Oct 23, 2022 7:08:36 GMT -5
I have to say the '75 Tele Deluxe is speaking to me. CuNiFe magnets? That hasn't happened in a while.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Oct 23, 2022 7:46:46 GMT -5
I have to say the '75 Tele Deluxe is speaking to me. CuNiFe magnets? That hasn't happened in a while. The Mocha finished one holds a nostalgic appeal. Played my first gig in 74 with a borrowed one through my brother's Traynor YBA1 and two 15" cabs. |
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Post by Leftee on Oct 23, 2022 8:30:07 GMT -5
The Fender Mocha Burst is pretty nice.
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Post by insanecooker on Nov 22, 2022 21:52:12 GMT -5
I have to say the '75 Tele Deluxe is speaking to me. CuNiFe magnets? That hasn't happened in a while. The Mocha finished one holds a nostalgic appeal. Played my first gig in 74 with a borrowed one through my brother's Traynor YBA1 and two 15" cabs. Well, I bought a sunburnt one. I was noodling around and my wife came to say that it sounded so good, and that I had nothing else that sounded like it. She’s right. |
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I messed up the quote, but my take on pcalu's comment