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Post by LTB on Dec 17, 2022 22:38:48 GMT -5
I am looking for an Audio Interface (not much over $250-preferably less) that is reliable with Windows 11 (Intel I7) and hopefully works with Reaper. Please, this is driving me crazy trying to find a good one. This is for personal recording (not professional) guitar and bass
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Post by ninworks on Dec 18, 2022 3:32:54 GMT -5
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Dec 18, 2022 8:13:36 GMT -5
The 2i2 and 4i4 are also under the $250 budget, getting more inputs. I had the 2i2 and it worked fine with my Win7/Pro Tools 10/HP laptop setup. I sold it when I got the Avid Eleven Rack.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Dec 18, 2022 16:20:11 GMT -5
I would be inclined to maybe check if there are any dedicated Reaper forums and see if there are any opinions about preferred audio interfaces and/or opinions on the Scarlett. With my system I've used the original bundled Avid MBox, the Scarlett and the Eleven Rack. I've fought latency issues with all three but am certain that's more of an issue post interface than any of the devices.
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Post by LTB on Dec 18, 2022 20:58:48 GMT -5
I would be inclined to maybe check if there are any dedicated Reaper forums and see if there are any opinions about preferred audio interfaces and/or opinions on the Scarlett. With my system I've used the original bundled Avid MBox, the Scarlett and the Eleven Rack. I've fought latency issues with all three but am certain that's more of an issue post interface than any of the devices. Well I got on the Reaper forum but now even more discouraged. Maybe I should just forget this endeaver. I have a Tascam 008x multi track recorder. I guess I will try and use it. My issue is with one button does a multitude of things makes them tiring to use. |
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Dec 18, 2022 21:10:31 GMT -5
What's discouraging you, the interface dilemma or just the whole overwhelming digital recording aspect? It can be daunting if you've not had any experience. FWIW, these interfaces come bundled with lite versions of recording programs that may be a good place to start if you've not ventured into digital recording yet. I'm guessing most of those programs can do most of what any stand alone DAW can do.
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Post by LTB on Dec 18, 2022 22:05:06 GMT -5
What's discouraging you, the interface dilemma or just the whole overwhelming digital recording aspect? It can be daunting if you've not had any experience. FWIW, these interfaces come bundled with lite versions of recording programs that may be a good place to start if you've not ventured into digital recording yet. I'm guessing most of those programs can do most of what any stand alone DAW can do. There seems to be issues with the Audio Interfaces and windows 11 I have A Tascam 008 digital recorder and it worked fine 3-4 years ago when I bought it but having one button say that does a multitude of things you have to scroll through and pick was tiring. I was Wanting to get an interface that will work with Reaper AND Windows 11 to do home recordings. I dont Want to pay $1000 or more for one that doesn’t have issues with Windows 11. It was recommended I use Reaper as it is user friendly. |
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Post by Larry Madsen on Dec 19, 2022 12:37:23 GMT -5
I have this one. Wish I knew how to use it.   IMG_4524 by Larry Madsen, on Flickr I have the cheapo version of Ableton. |
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Post by LTB on Dec 19, 2022 13:56:12 GMT -5
Larry does it work with Windows 11?
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Post by Larry Madsen on Dec 19, 2022 14:30:06 GMT -5
Larry does it work with Windows 11? The computer in the music room is still Windows 10. Only one I have on 11 is the one I am typing on now  |
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Post by LTB on Dec 19, 2022 15:35:38 GMT -5
Are you having any issues with it on Windows 10 Larry?
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Post by Larry Madsen on Dec 20, 2022 7:01:59 GMT -5
Are you having any issues with it on Windows 10 Larry? None I have noticed with my very limited use. |
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Post by reverendrob on Dec 20, 2022 8:56:02 GMT -5
Windows 10 at this point will run anything that's got robust drivers.
I've been happily using a Tascam 16x08 for several years, after replacing a series of problematic (they die like roaches) Tascam US-1600s that were basically th esame unit with ...flaws and didn't run at all in 10.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Dec 20, 2022 9:35:39 GMT -5
Windows 10 at this point will run anything that's got robust drivers. My dilemma with my DAW lead me to take it offline when Win 7 stopped being supported. I kept getting mixed info about whether or not Pro Tools 10 would run in Win 10. Last I looked it was officially not supported and some people seemed to get it to work, others not. Not a risk I was willing to take after finally getting it all to work and play nice with all my plugins. |
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Post by LTB on Dec 20, 2022 13:45:21 GMT -5
I want to thank everyone’s replies here. I did not want to spent the money for RME and was frustrated with Audio Interface issues people reported with Windows 10 and 11 (mostly 11). I couldn’t bring myself to go back to the Tascam 008X multitrack recorder and it multiple functions you have to scroll through with one button. After a lot of search and thought I decided to get the Avid Studio Interface. It seems to work nicely with Windows 11 and it’s abilities are astounding. Of the multiple things offered is Blue Tooth input AND output so my Bluetooth Headphones and iphone/ipad should work fine with it via bluetooth. I ended up buying from Best Buy and got the 2 year protection for it ($89) It is due to be delivered this Friday. If any issues during that time period I just return it and they replace it (or return my money if they are no longer available). I will not use but few inputs but hopefully it will be user friendly and work well. That is all I can ask for. I don’t understand why in this day and time they use USB 2.0 but that seems to be the norm with most of the ones I have seen. I would think USB 3.0 or more would be the choice but I do not know much about this at this point. I do not have Thunderbolt available for my laptop. Another reason I chose this is the 2 Expression Pedal inputs on the back. I have 2 expression pedals I used with the Katana Artist Amp I sold (nothing wrong with it but I do not play guitar enough to warrant the use of it and it took up valuable space. I have a 1990 Fender Stereo Chorus amp that does most of what I need for guitar. www.avid.com/products/mbox-studioThe best write-up is on sweetwater www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MBOXStudio--avid-mbox-studio-usb-c-audio-interface |
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Dec 20, 2022 15:59:27 GMT -5
Wow, that's quite the upgrade from the small Focusrite units. Let us know how it all works out. I've scratched my head for years now wondering why there aren't more USB 3 units out there.
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Post by LTB on Dec 20, 2022 17:47:38 GMT -5
Wow, that's quite the upgrade from the small Focusrite units. Let us know how it all works out. I've scratched my head for years now wondering why there aren't more USB 3 units out there. Yeah, this one is USB-C but supports USB-2. I dont get it either. I wanted to spend a 3rd that amount but everywhere I looked saw issues with Either Windows 10 Or Windows 11 .Drove me crazy! It is already going to be a learning curve learning the Recording Software. I don’t Want to add hardware’s firmware issues on top of it. I don’t know if I want to use reaper or use Protools Studio or what. Reaper seems doable but looking at it and then Pro Tools it’s like going from windows 3.1 to Windows 11 or a 70 VW Bug to todays cars with bells and whistles. If I am not seeing the comparison correctly please let me know . If Pro Tools is far harder to use I will probably just use Reaper. Maybe it’s operation will do what most average user would prefer. I can Learn just like I did with the Katana amp BUT do I want to. I will Probably start out on Reaper |
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Post by ninworks on Dec 20, 2022 18:06:31 GMT -5
I've never used Pro Tools Studio but its big brothers are a beast to learn. At least it was for me. I'm pretty comfortable with it now after using it for 15 years but when I started it was daunting.
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Post by LTB on Dec 20, 2022 18:52:45 GMT -5
Ok, I will probably go ahead and purchase Reaper for $60 one time fee and use it but also get Pro Tools Studio to work with little by little. I mean if I decide to stop using Pro Tools I just cease paying the monthly/yearly fee which ever I chose at the time.
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Post by markfromhawaii on Dec 22, 2022 3:40:16 GMT -5
Ok, I will probably go ahead and purchase Reaper for $60 one time fee and use it but also get Pro Tools Studio to work with little by little. I mean if I decide to stop using Pro Tools I just cease paying the monthly/yearly fee which ever I chose at the time. Check out the videos at the Reaper site: www.reaper.fm/videos.php |
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Post by LTB on Dec 22, 2022 13:16:33 GMT -5
Ok, I will probably go ahead and purchase Reaper for $60 one time fee and use it but also get Pro Tools Studio to work with little by little. I mean if I decide to stop using Pro Tools I just cease paying the monthly/yearly fee which ever I chose at the time. Check out the videos at the Reaper site: www.reaper.fm/videos.phpThanks! Will do |
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Post by LTB on Jan 29, 2023 4:21:00 GMT -5
I found out the MBOX Studio comes with one year free Pro Tools Studio. I didn't realize this when I ordered Pro Tools Artist. I upgraded it to Studio version few minutes ago Comes with about 26 plugins free.
I am getting more used to the MBOX Studio. Has some nice features. The one I thought I would use (Bluetooth for headphones) I decided to not use as I was told the typical Bluetooth headphone has 156ms latency. Don't know if that is true but I do not want any significant latency. I bought a nice set of Sterling S452 Headphones (wired) on sale at Guitar Center couple weeks ago for $69. They have neodymium magnets and operate at 100mw power that deliver very nice range of tones with very good volume (louder than my old American Audio Headphones that require 3500mw of power). I talked with one of the designers of the MBOX Studio and he told me they do not use conventional pots but instead a Binary encoder. It is great unit with a lot of features (some that are programmable).
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Post by ninworks on Jan 29, 2023 8:59:06 GMT -5
Excellent!
The most important thing you can do when mixing a project in headphones, or anything for that matter, is to listen and use recordings you like and are familiar with, done by the pros, to inform your decisions about tone and balance in your own mixes. It is a good way to gauge your decisions about how much bass or high end you should have with your mix, how loud or quiet a vocal or guitar solo should be, etc. You're not trying to make your mix sound just like theirs but using theirs as a measuring device for comparison.
I used an Mbox for years when I first got into pro Tools. I actually still have it but it doesn't work with my newer computer with a 64 bit version of Windows. It does still work with my old Windows XP computer though and that's why I keep it around. They are a great unit and powerful enough to do anything you need.
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Post by LTB on Jan 29, 2023 12:13:51 GMT -5
Thank you for your advice ninworks
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