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Post by gato on Apr 15, 2023 5:26:36 GMT -5
Police say that maybe "10 or so" suspects were involved in the theft of about 10,000 lbs of dimes, from a tractor trailer in a Walmart parking lot in Philadelphia. The haul was part of the $750,000 worth of dimes that were to be trucked to Florida from the US Mint the following mornng. It's possible that the thieves' had picked up on the fact that the trailer contained 3/4 of a million in cash from the US Mint, but didn't know it was all in dimes. Are there vending machines that accept dimes? Can you hit the Craps table in Vegas with fistfuls of dimes? Can you cash in a wheelbarrow full of them at the bank? What would you do with 10,000 lbs of dimes? 6abc.com/dime-theft-trailer-containing-dimes-philadelphia-walmart-parking-lot/13127121/
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Post by ninworks on Apr 15, 2023 5:30:22 GMT -5
I'd buy a new amp and dime it.....sorry.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Apr 15, 2023 7:38:53 GMT -5
Not that I'm an expert on money laundering or anything But... I'd use it to finance my groceries for the next 10 years. Most supermarkets have those CoinStar machines that spit out a receipt good for cash or groceries in the store. Do it in amounts for less than about $150 each time and those minty dimes will be diluted by all the other dimes, making them extremely difficult to trace. It becomes a simple matter of 'salting' the dimes back into circulation without setting off any alarms, or bank managers having to make That Phone Call to the FBI. Okay, it was ME! This job went way better than when we tried to open an ATM with bricks back in September. I have a permanent dent in my skull from that. Pro Tip: don't do acid right before a job.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Apr 15, 2023 7:45:42 GMT -5
For me it brings to mind ... What would that look like sitting on a table (probably the floor) in front of me?
I know exactly what four or five million dollars in cash (hundred-dollar bills) looks like on a table in front of me.
3/4 million in dimes would be quite a pile ... I am thinking. I'd hate to have to transport it in any sort of hurry.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Apr 15, 2023 7:50:28 GMT -5
3/4 million in dimes would be quite a pile ... I am thinking. I'd hate to have to transport it in any sort of hurry. Sort of like how the Mob sometimes has the police on their payroll. Reminds me of the official report of an investigation into a body found in the East River: "The perpetrator tried to steal more chains than he could swim with."
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Post by Vibroluxer on Apr 15, 2023 7:59:27 GMT -5
$750,000 = 75,000 Dimes Each dime has .0723 oz of silver
75,000 x .0723 = 5,233 oz of silver
Spot price of silver = $25.62/oz
5233 x $25.62 = $138,937.
Is someone that stupid to steal so many dimes stupid enough to melt it down?
I'd love to edit out my math error. Who'd have thought I have an economics degree. Doh!
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Post by modbus on Apr 15, 2023 8:38:26 GMT -5
Slim Pickens is the prime suspect.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Apr 15, 2023 9:58:24 GMT -5
Not that I'm an expert on money laundering or anything But... I'd use it to finance my groceries for the next 10 years. Most supermarkets have those CoinStar machines that spit out a receipt good for cash or groceries in the store. Do it in amounts for less than about $150 each time and those minty dimes will be diluted by all the other dimes, making them extremely difficult to trace. It becomes a simple matter of 'salting' the dimes back into circulation without setting off any alarms, or bank managers having to make That Phone Call to the FBI. Okay, it was ME! This job went way better than when we tried to open an ATM with bricks back in September. I have a permanent dent in my skull from that. Pro Tip: don't do acid right before a job. It sounds like you MIGHT be a dime laundering expert… BUT There would likely be video evidence of you, on a weekly basis, coming in and cashing out hundreds of dimes. You’d be banking on the fact that nobody would see that there were weird dime-only cash outs every week and that nobody would look into it.
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Post by RufusTeleStrat on Apr 15, 2023 10:55:45 GMT -5
$750,000 = 75,000 Dimes Each dime has .0723 oz of silver 75,000 x .0723 = 5,233 oz of silver Spot price of silver = $25.62/oz 5233 x $25.62 = $138,937. Is someone that stupid to steal so many dimes stupid enough to melt it down? Unfortunately there has been no silver in the coinage since 1964. Some 50 cent pieces had a small amount up until 1970, and some special proof sets, but otherwise copper nickel.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Apr 15, 2023 11:56:53 GMT -5
Not that I'm an expert on money laundering or anything But... I'd use it to finance my groceries for the next 10 years. Most supermarkets have those CoinStar machines that spit out a receipt good for cash or groceries in the store. Do it in amounts for less than about $150 each time and those minty dimes will be diluted by all the other dimes, making them extremely difficult to trace. It becomes a simple matter of 'salting' the dimes back into circulation without setting off any alarms, or bank managers having to make That Phone Call to the FBI. Okay, it was ME! This job went way better than when we tried to open an ATM with bricks back in September. I have a permanent dent in my skull from that. Pro Tip: don't do acid right before a job. It sounds like you MIGHT be a dime laundering expert… BUT There would likely be video evidence of you, on a weekly basis, coming in and cashing out hundreds of dimes. You’d be banking on the fact that nobody would see that there were weird dime-only cash outs every week and that nobody would look into it.
Depends. Any given metro area has dozens of these machines in grocery stores, Wal-Mart, and who knows where else. Identifiable data is not collected, and it isn't a given that coinstar has in their software any way to flag funny data, like someone dumping in JUST dimes and not an array of other kinds of change. The data would be there if they put enough effort into it - you can never be fully under the radar, but it depends on how amped up the radar is going to be. If being just dimes is not sending flags AND you keep it under $100 each time AND you spread it out across a state AND you're willing to lie low for a while before starting to cash in, it seems like it would be pretty safe. If you have a way to launder it prior to that, like distributing the dimes all across the country, there's another way to stay safe.
You can also cash in for gift certificates on those machines. Whether law enforcement could follow a GC code from a machine to Amazon and get personal information that way either with or without a warrant, I have no idea. You'd know better than me. Or, matching it with a grocery store's member number, or credit card data (Walmart knows to email me asking me for customer service reviews just because I use the same credit card when I go)... hard to say.
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Post by Taildragger on Apr 15, 2023 12:05:02 GMT -5
Slim Pickens is the prime suspect. Just in case anybody missed the little sight gag dropped here by Mel Brooks:
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Post by Vibroluxer on Apr 15, 2023 12:17:22 GMT -5
$750,000 = 75,000 Dimes Each dime has .0723 oz of silver 75,000 x .0723 = 5,233 oz of silver Spot price of silver = $25.62/oz 5233 x $25.62 = $138,937. Is someone that stupid to steal so many dimes stupid enough to melt it down? Unfortunately there has been no silver in the coinage since 1964. Some 50 cent pieces had a small amount up until 1970, and some special proof sets, but otherwise copper nickel. Man, that's what I thought so I Googled it and came up with that number. I mustn't have read enough. Thanks for the update.
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Post by modbus on Apr 15, 2023 12:29:57 GMT -5
Slim Pickens is the prime suspect. Just in case anybody missed the little sight gag dropped here by Mel Brooks:
Wow, I never knew that.
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Post by K4 on Apr 15, 2023 12:35:45 GMT -5
When I did the armored car stint I hated coins, damn things are heavy.
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Post by Taildragger on Apr 15, 2023 12:57:56 GMT -5
Just in case anybody missed the little sight gag dropped here by Mel Brooks:
Wow, I never knew that. And you probably didn't know about the formal musician designation: "flatulist", either, didja?
Most bands have at least one...
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Apr 15, 2023 15:55:11 GMT -5
Break it down by the value of the shipment, figure in the total number of dimes x the weight of a dime, and the result is 17 tons.
That is way more than a pickup truck and a Jesus Chrysler 300 can move out with.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Apr 15, 2023 16:14:11 GMT -5
Break it down by the value of the shipment, figure in the total number of dimes x the weight of a dime, and the result is 17 tons. That is way more than a pickup truck and a Jesus Chrysler 300 can move out with. So then either the weight or the value is misreported.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Apr 15, 2023 17:35:37 GMT -5
Break it down by the value of the shipment, figure in the total number of dimes x the weight of a dime, and the result is 17 tons. That is way more than a pickup truck and a Jesus Chrysler 300 can move out with. So then either the weight or the value is misreported. Yeah, I dunno. Here's my math. I think it's correct. A dime weighs 2.268 grams. $750,000 (claimed theft amount) in dimes is 7,500,000 dimes. 7,500,000 x 2.268 = 17,010,000 grams. Converted to imperial weight that's 37,500 pounds or 16.75 tons. So I'm wondering if there were fewer dimes in the truck by the time the berg-yoo-lerz showed up...
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Post by K4 on Apr 15, 2023 17:57:36 GMT -5
It was probably the value of the dimes in the truck, not the amount stolen. Larry, I know what 900 million looks like being transported to the fed and unloaded on the dock.
I also know what 20 million of untraceable bills going to the fed to be destroyed looks like.
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Post by modbus on Apr 15, 2023 18:32:36 GMT -5
The article said they stole 2 million dimes, which would weigh about 8,900 lb, which could theoretically fit in the back of a dually. It would probably be overloaded, but I've seen worse driving down the highway.
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Post by oldnjplayer on Apr 15, 2023 18:42:36 GMT -5
I would be extravagant and buy two dozen eggs and fill up all three cars. If anything is left over I would buy some more groceries.
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Post by reverendrob on Apr 15, 2023 19:56:42 GMT -5
Hey baby, want to buy a guitar forum?
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Post by Leftee on Apr 16, 2023 5:42:03 GMT -5
Break it down by the value of the shipment, figure in the total number of dimes x the weight of a dime, and the result is 17 tons. That is way more than a pickup truck and a Jesus Chrysler 300 can move out with. That’s a whole ton of profit! Because Tennessee Erie Ford warned us what 16 tons will get ya.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Apr 16, 2023 10:04:21 GMT -5
Slim Pickens is the prime suspect. Just in case anybody missed the little sight gag dropped here by Mel Brooks:
This is Mel Brooks in a nutshell. A very smart guy full of historical and literary references who loves fart jokes.
Another joke in the movie I only figured out years later was Madeline Kahn's character name "Lily Von Schtupp".... "shtup" is a yiddish word for sex... seems to be a cruder, more informal word for it too, since it evolved from a verb "to push".
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Post by Mfitz804 on Apr 16, 2023 10:22:36 GMT -5
Just in case anybody missed the little sight gag dropped here by Mel Brooks:
This is Mel Brooks in a nutshell. A very smart guy full of historical and literary references who loves fart jokes.
Another joke in the movie I only figured out years later was Madeline Kahn's character name "Lily Von Schtupp".... "shtup" is a yiddish word for sex... seems to be a cruder, more informal word for it too, since it evolved from a verb "to push".
His use of stuff like this which at the time, you couldn’t just Google to find out what it meant, was brilliant. My father was a big Mel Brooks fan, I watched all of these movies as a young child and much of the humor went directly over my head until years later.
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Post by modbus on Apr 16, 2023 10:34:34 GMT -5
"High Anxiety" is another good one, I wonder what went over my head in that one.
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