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Post by rdr on Aug 9, 2023 14:09:03 GMT -5
Yo axemen! Say, my friend has a nice cherry 335. It has a case of red overspray on the ivory neck binding. The guitar is nicely made otherwise. Surprised it left the factory that way. Overspray looks really thin.
Anyway, what is the best way to remove the overspray? Single edged razor blade dragged backwards? Thanks for any advice.
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Post by Leftee on Aug 9, 2023 15:47:20 GMT -5
Is it overspray, or is that from play?
It’s going to bleed over the binding eventually. It’s part of the charm.
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Post by rdr on Aug 9, 2023 16:05:11 GMT -5
It was that way when new. My 1995 335 hasn't bled.
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Post by Leftee on Aug 9, 2023 16:11:48 GMT -5
I will defer to the experts. I haven’t had to deal with this.
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Post by sirWheat on Aug 9, 2023 19:30:27 GMT -5
Not an expert, but as I recall, gibson sprays the tone coats then scrapes the binding clean before the final clear coats. I'm unfamiliar with this phenomenon but it seems likely that the only way to fix it would be to scrape down to the binding and spray new clear.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Aug 9, 2023 19:33:18 GMT -5
Are you talking on the finished part of the neck (like where you'd see side dots), or on the fingerboard? The taping off of the binding can sometimes be a bit sloppy, and it has always been that way. You figure that out the most when you're trying to remove a nut and can't figure out where the bottom of it is. There is often a bit of a tint, too... so, white binding will look a bit pink on a cherry 335. If it is up on the fingerboard, it can be scraped off with a razor blade if you want. Be careful not to pull it out towards the fingerboard edge in case it wants to pull some lacquer off from the side of the neck, and if you're really nervous, move the razor blade slightly diagonally in towards the center of the fingerboard to avoid this... but it probably isn't enough for that to happen. It could just be that the fingerboard taping wasn't super snug and some snuck in underneath. That particular problem isn't that common, but Gibson gets sloppy in some pretty weird ways sometimes so it wouldn't surprise me.
(edited to say if you're talking about the side where the side dots are, then sirWheat is correct. I'm not sure if they scrape or tape (I think tape because the lines go over the nuts in a way that would be hard to scrape), but in either case you have clear there that is over whatever is unsightly.)
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Post by rdr on Aug 10, 2023 12:42:01 GMT -5
The overspray is on the binding on the side of the fingerboard, where the side dots are. Watching some videos on scraping binding, seems the a single edged blade is the way to go (carefully). Maybe follow with some wipe-on poly.
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Post by Pinetree on Aug 10, 2023 20:12:29 GMT -5
Just play the dang thing.
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Post by rdr on Aug 10, 2023 20:29:12 GMT -5
I play mine. Hate to see this on my friends guitar.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Aug 12, 2023 11:34:00 GMT -5
The overspray is on the binding on the side of the fingerboard, where the side dots are. Watching some videos on scraping binding, seems the a single edged blade is the way to go (carefully). Maybe follow with some wipe-on poly. Don't.
You'll get color changes that will be impossible to match, and the wipe-on poly on top of lacquer will look like sh*t.
If he is really bothered by it, see if he can return it/exchange it.
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Post by rdr on Aug 13, 2023 8:59:01 GMT -5
Thanks for constructive comments! If he decides to go ahead, I'll report the results. Hmm. Maybe just some 1000 grit paper...
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Post by 009 on Aug 13, 2023 10:38:08 GMT -5
I’d try one of these first, wrapped around a fingertip for precise cleaning: Mr Clean Magic Eraser Sheets
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Post by rdr on Aug 13, 2023 11:59:47 GMT -5
That Would be magic! I'll try it, thanks.
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Aug 13, 2023 18:46:47 GMT -5
The issue, as sirWheat pointed out, is that any color is under the clear coat. You won't even get close to getting rid of those marks without taking off all of the clearcoat that is over it, and probably going straight down to raw plastic. Trust me, your friend would rather have some errant spots than to have the lacquer scraped back to plastic at a random spot.
It is possible that there is something else happening on top of the clear coat and it is misdiagnosed as oversprayed color... in that case it might be worth experimenting, but if you're removing any significant amount of clear, you're going to have a project on your hands that will be over your head very, very fast. Chances are if it isn't something you can feel with your finger, it is going to be too deep to bother.
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Post by sirWheat on Aug 14, 2023 17:45:46 GMT -5
Indeed. I know what what I would do but I don't see myself ever doing it. A lot of work for miniscule gain. That said, in my not-that-extensive experience gibson has seemed to have gotten increasingly negligent in the area of binding over the last couple of decades. Nothing that would be a deal breaker necessarily but given the prices these days it kinda sucks seeing (and feeling) visible edges at the body/binding joints. Not that hard to spray enough lacquer to avoid this...
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Post by rdr on Aug 14, 2023 23:14:01 GMT -5
Thanks, I've been warned. Just getting ideas for my friend. I'm sure it bugs him at the price he paid (block inlay version).
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Post by funkykikuchiyo on Aug 15, 2023 20:36:26 GMT -5
Yeah, Gibson QC has been truly awful and weird lately. Luckily most of the problems are either cosmetic or very fixable and the resulting guitars are still very nice. Still.... weird things going on over there. I could probably take guesses, but I'll keep it to myself.
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