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Post by samspade on Sept 3, 2023 16:11:07 GMT -5
I prefer the smaller footprint, but have noticed a sound difference with the regular size. Two examples, mxr phase 95, sounds nice, but not like my phase 90 and I have a few lol. Another is a mini EXH pog. I'm not sure if it's in my head. With the pog, it is in a different spot in the board. Need to do a side by side.
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Post by Vibroluxer on Sept 3, 2023 16:29:57 GMT -5
Im sure there is a little truth and a lot of marketing here but this is what Maxon says about their Vintage Series:
"Even chassis size and component positioning have been carefully considered in order to maximize performance and minimize noise."
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DrKev
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Post by DrKev on Sept 4, 2023 8:14:55 GMT -5
Electrons don't care what size box something is in. If the circuit is the same and all the components have the same value you could put it in a shoe box or a match box and it won't matter a single little bit.
Phase 95 in 90 mode should be "identical" to the Phase 90, but I say "identical" because even two Phase 90s side-by-side may not be 100% identical because component values are never precisely the value marked but +/- 10% of that nominal value. That said, they should all be so close that in a blind test nobody can consistently tell which one is which.
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Post by Mike the marksman on Sept 5, 2023 7:26:08 GMT -5
I like being able to use 9V batteries, so I prefer regular-size pedals because of that.
I believe that any difference in sound between regular and mini pedals, or even two identical pedals, is down to compenent tolerances.
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Post by pcalu on Sept 7, 2023 20:04:20 GMT -5
If the components are the same... and the layout's the same, then yes they should sound identical regardless of the chasis
That said many companies cut corners with the mini version (for cost reasons... mini's are usually sold as the cost savings version)
layout, just like in amps, is also important, although imo more impactful in old school builds
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Post by samspade on Sept 7, 2023 20:06:22 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm looking for anyone noticing more high-end or a thinner sound. I know the circuit should be the same, but have seen other accounts. Not interested in shoebox pedals, unless I can store a sandwich in there.
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Post by chucksmi on Sept 15, 2023 6:02:06 GMT -5
Electrons don't care what size box something is in. If the circuit is the same and all the components have the same value you could put it in a shoe box or a match box and it won't matter a single little bit. Phase 95 in 90 mode should be "identical" to the Phase 90, but I say "identical" because even two Phase 90s side-by-side may not be 100% identical because component values are never precisely the value marked but +/- 10% of that nominal value. That said, they should all be so close that in a blind test nobody can consistently tell which one is which. I might challenge that statement. They sure as heck do. Just play gigs with single coils and see what I mean. Inductance, resistance, capacitance are all effected by the circuit layout. Given the above statement there would be no need for a hand-wired, point-to-point chassis for your amp. Chuck
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Post by samspade on Sept 16, 2023 16:15:23 GMT -5
Didn't think of it in amp terms. Yeah, I have heard point to point and I've heard board amps and, yeah, same circuit doesn't sound the same. Someone has to tell the electrons lol.
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Post by LTB on Sept 17, 2023 13:11:58 GMT -5
Electrons don't care what size box something is in. If the circuit is the same and all the components have the same value you could put it in a shoe box or a match box and it won't matter a single little bit. Phase 95 in 90 mode should be "identical" to the Phase 90, but I say "identical" because even two Phase 90s side-by-side may not be 100% identical because component values are never precisely the value marked but +/- 10% of that nominal value. That said, they should all be so close that in a blind test nobody can consistently tell which one is which. Somewhat true. It is not just the values but their positioning on the board can have some effect on the sound. Vibroluxer said it best
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