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Post by LTB on Jan 30, 2024 14:31:04 GMT -5
Bob Dylan Hank Williams Both were prolific writers but singing was lacking at least for me.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jan 30, 2024 15:48:23 GMT -5
Dylan is a funny one. As a fan I can identify at least 5 distinct voices he's had over the years. The original folky Bobby Dylan, the "Positively 4th Street" Dylan (one of my favorites), the schticky crooning "Lay Lady Lay" Dylan, the "Knockin' on Heavens Door" Dylan (which I think is his best performance) and the Wilburys and on croak that I find almost intolerable.
I really like lyrics so if an artist has something else to offer in a not so pleasant voice I can hang. Al Stewart is another such artist. If the album "Year of the Cat" didn't have the production and storytelling lyrics the lisp would send me running. Probably not much different than enduring Geddy Lee, lol.
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Post by reverendrob on Jan 30, 2024 18:25:34 GMT -5
Dylan is a funny one. As a fan I can identify at least 5 distinct voices he's had over the years. The original folky Bobby Dylan, the "Positively 4th Street" Dylan (one of my favorites), the schticky crooning "Lay Lady Lay" Dylan, the "Knockin' on Heavens Door" Dylan (which I think is his best performance) and the Wilburys and on croak that I find almost intolerable. I really like lyrics so if an artist has something else to offer in a not so pleasant voice I can hang. Al Stewart is another such artist. If the album "Year of the Cat" didn't have the production and storytelling lyrics the lisp would send me running. Probably not much different than enduring Geddy Lee, lol. Dylan's weird works on SOME of it. SOME of it. I love most of "Desire" but that's as late as I go with giving a crap. And "John Wesley Harding" pretty much is nigh perfect - I can't imagine someone else populating those worlds. It's like Leonard Cohen when Cohen is on - nobody else could.
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Post by langford on Jan 31, 2024 6:49:20 GMT -5
Dylan's weird works on SOME of it. SOME of it. Same here. I think "Blood on the Tracks" is great. I'm not sure about other phases of his career.
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Post by Bopper on Jan 31, 2024 12:33:42 GMT -5
This probably won't change anybody's mind about Dylan (I'm a long-time fan), - it's twenty years old, - only the bass player (Tony Garnier) is still in his band, - the melody is basically one note,
- he doesn't play guitar any more But give it five minutes - it rocks pretty good.
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Post by Taildragger on Jan 31, 2024 14:51:31 GMT -5
For me, Dylan's zenith was the "Blonde on Blonde" album. It was the sound track a distinct point in time and the events that were taking place at that moment.
When he crashed his motorcycle a month after that album was released, it seemed like a fitting progression and served as a metaphor for an era that was coming to its inevitable end.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jan 31, 2024 14:58:18 GMT -5
I really tuned into Dylan around the Concert for Bangladesh. I believe that was already after his motorcycle accident. He just seemed so...iconic. Up there in his blue jean jacket, flanked by George Harrison and Leon Russell on bass. That led me backwards through his career, his repeat intersections with The Band. For me Blood on the Tracks was his last "great" album. I should probably give the subsequent stuff a listen.
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Post by LeftyMeister on Jan 31, 2024 17:06:13 GMT -5
Does anyone remember the HBO behind the scenes special of the making of We are the World? The part was so intriguing where Stevie Wonder had to teach Bob Dylan to sing his part like Bob Dylan. Talk about the ultimate irony…
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Post by Taildragger on Jan 31, 2024 18:50:51 GMT -5
The comments are almost funnier than the video, itself:
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Post by LTB on Feb 2, 2024 2:51:10 GMT -5
Dylan is a funny one. As a fan I can identify at least 5 distinct voices he's had over the years. The original folky Bobby Dylan, the "Positively 4th Street" Dylan (one of my favorites), the schticky crooning "Lay Lady Lay" Dylan, the "Knockin' on Heavens Door" Dylan (which I think is his best performance) and the Wilburys and on croak that I find almost intolerable. I really like lyrics so if an artist has something else to offer in a not so pleasant voice I can hang. Al Stewart is another such artist. If the album "Year of the Cat" didn't have the production and storytelling lyrics the lisp would send me running. Probably not much different than enduring Geddy Lee, lol. Lay Lady Lay was a great song! One of the few I liked. I realize I am in the vast minority who wasnt enamered by his singing.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Feb 2, 2024 12:57:22 GMT -5
Lay Lady Lay was a great song! One of the few I liked. I realize I am in the vast minority who wasnt enamered by his singing. I enjoyed the song but can't help feeling the voice was a bit too coached. It's funny but I really dug I Threw it All Away from Nashville Skyline. Simple song but his voice seems a bit more genuine.
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Post by LTB on Feb 3, 2024 7:36:12 GMT -5
Another was Billy Joe Shaver from Waco Texas. He wrote excellent material for Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson and others. About 2014 he and dad became good friends after a show in Austin. Over the years they got very close and when he passed away dad who was dying of prostate cancer was really saddened. He had a pretty hard life and struggled with the loss of his son to drugs. I like two or three songs he sang but for the most part felt he was a much better writer than a singer.
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Post by orrk01 on Feb 4, 2024 10:48:21 GMT -5
When I first saw The White Stripes, I think it was on Saturday Night Live. I muttered to myself "what was that all about?"
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Post by windmill on Feb 5, 2024 4:38:35 GMT -5
Frank Zappa.
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Post by LeftyMeister on Feb 6, 2024 16:52:07 GMT -5
Ditto! I liked Joe's Garage and a few others, but most of it was circus music.
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Post by LTB on Feb 6, 2024 23:44:10 GMT -5
Yeah, Zappa was out there! Evidence: His children’s names Dweezel amd Moonunit
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Post by reverendrob on Feb 7, 2024 0:41:32 GMT -5
Ditto! I liked Joe's Garage and a few others, but most of it was circus music. Yea, Joe's Garage was on point. The rest, as someone who loves weird music - it was weird for the sake of being weird rather htan "anything that sounds fun, interesting, or captivating."
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