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Post by Duke on Apr 15, 2020 14:52:28 GMT -5
The way things are going, I think possibly around July or August here in Georgia.
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Post by rickyguitar on Apr 15, 2020 20:50:05 GMT -5
Really have no idea.
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Post by jazzguy on Apr 16, 2020 0:24:57 GMT -5
well, since they announced that once they start allowing gatherings again they expect to see another rise in cases, how sharp of a spike no one knows. I'm thinking no earlier than July, likely August if we're lucky when it's hot in places like the northeast. Not sure how I feel about it, part of me wants to make sure this is gone no matter how long it takes, but on the other hand I count on $ from gigs as well and all musicians are sitting home these days.
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Post by HenryJ on Apr 16, 2020 6:50:59 GMT -5
I optimistically voted "Fall." I really have no idea, but I have told my wife I would not be surprised if "all this" lasted until Labor Day.
But from what I have read, perhaps "next year" would have been a better guess.
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Post by TBird on Apr 16, 2020 6:51:45 GMT -5
I'm not encouraged by what I'm hearing on TV at this time. Until we have a reliable testing system and an effective vaccine, allowing public gatherings could be disastrous. I'm not reliant on gig money (it only goes to buy more guitars), but I know a lot of people who are. These people are in a world of hurt. One local pro has been selling off his guitars and gear because he needs the money. Sad.
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Post by bassngtr on Apr 16, 2020 8:43:16 GMT -5
I've been wondering about this a lot. I suspect that most folks are going to be slow to go back to gathering in restaurants and pubs. I suspect there will be a period after that resumes with no live bands. I am very afraid that some of our regulur places to play may not survive the shutdown. Those that do survive will need to make cash for a while before getting live music cooking again. Just my opinion.
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Post by jazzguy on Apr 16, 2020 10:57:23 GMT -5
I've been wondering about this a lot. I suspect that most folks are going to be slow to go back to gathering in restaurants and pubs. I suspect there will be a period after that resumes with no live bands. I am very afraid that some of our regulur places to play may not survive the shutdown. Those that do survive will need to make cash for a while before getting live music cooking again. Just my opinion. I agree w this. I was down to 2 weeklies, 8 and 7 yrs respectively and have heard from the owner of one who can't wait to get us back but the other gig might be over if I had to guess.
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Post by Grizbear-NJ on Apr 16, 2020 16:45:21 GMT -5
I have to go with "I have no Idea" There are too many factors to consider. Here are some notable problems from the "Joisey Shore" area.
First: the entire Night Club-Bar-Restaurant business is dependent on the "Tourist Trade"; they are all shut down right now, and possibly may not be able to re-open at all. This time of year would have been their preparation and kickoff time.
At this moment in time, beach house and other rentals (reservations) are way down. Many of the Boardwalk venues have closed shop already, and cleared out. There are many "Club" & "Restaurant" venues that are absolutely finished if they don't get financial aide of some sort right now. From what I can gather, many tourists will not be coming to the Jersey Shore at all, for a number of safety related and financial reasons.
Many of the legitimate logistical and support companies (supply) have folded and closed shop already. To continue the domino effect, many bands are throwing in the hat, because of the current lack of work. There is absolutely no way of predicting what venues will be available, not to mention when. It continues to go downhill from there.
When things do get better, it will definitely take a long period of time for everybody to recover, and get back to some satisfactory level.
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Post by mikem on Apr 17, 2020 7:26:07 GMT -5
I live in SE New England (30 mins north of Newport, west of Providence, RI, 40 mins from the Cape, an hour south of Boston) my optimistic view: July the earliest my realistic view: when-a-vaccine-is-developed and everyone has an "arm full"
Newport, RI and Cape Cod make the bulk of their $ during June/July/August (.....so do I...or so I did)
If,,,,,,,things "ease up" around here in July I am sure vacationers will stay away due to fear of flying, etc.
*about vacationing* One thing that this area has going for it: we have some of the best hospitals in the world up the road in Boston:) the above being said, If I was going to vacation this summer, I'd be more apt to go to an area that has good health care...just "in case" (...sorry Fiji Islands, etc.)
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Post by Duke on Apr 17, 2020 12:56:20 GMT -5
So, it looks like whenever Phase 2 of this new "opening up" plan would allow places to open again. Of course each state's governor makes the decision.
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Post by k9bigdog on Apr 18, 2020 7:51:55 GMT -5
I've been wondering about this a lot. I suspect that most folks are going to be slow to go back to gathering in restaurants and pubs. . I tend to agree with the above. I wonder how eager people will be to gather together in close proximity to one another right away after the restrictions are lifted. The problem is, that by the time the restrictions are fully lifted it's very possible that the weather conditions and some lingering infection could lead to a second wave of pandemic.
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Post by Duke on Apr 18, 2020 9:29:21 GMT -5
Yet Jacksonville Beach opened in Florida already?!?!
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Post by Duke on Apr 19, 2020 10:12:37 GMT -5
14 votes with over 500+ members. Hmm...
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Post by Geno on Apr 20, 2020 7:28:27 GMT -5
14 votes with over 500+ members. Hmm... Apparently most members don't play gigs and therefore don't frequent the "Performer's Corner" forum.
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Post by Duke on Apr 20, 2020 9:39:09 GMT -5
Apparently most members don't play gigs and therefore don't frequent the "Performer's Corner" forum. I understand that, but there have been many posts in this section and the sub title is for those who "practice" and perform. (Anything to do with practice or performing). No big deal, just thought there would be more opinions.
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Post by Geno on Apr 20, 2020 10:38:30 GMT -5
...the sub title is for those who "practice" and perform I'm missing something. Where would someone see this sub title? You are correct in that performing doesn't necessarily have to be outside the home, but the topic does reference "clubs" and "live bands", so maybe that's why many just move on. I don't think practicing falls into a performance category, but a band rehearsal or jam would, but still... not many opinions offered here. There have been 220+ views, so it's getting more traffic than the poll results suggest.
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Post by LesTele on Apr 20, 2020 11:03:22 GMT -5
From the forum homepage
“Performer's Corner - 3 Viewing Anything to do with practicing or performing music.”
I find it strange answering a poll with “I don’t know”. I always laughed at phone in polls where people called to say ‘I don’t know’, ‘I have no view’, ‘I don’t care’ or ‘I don’t understand’.
I’ve voted now.
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Post by Geno on Apr 20, 2020 12:57:34 GMT -5
From the forum homepage “Performer's Corner - 3 Viewing Anything to do with practicing or performing music.” Oops! That one blew right by me.
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Post by Duke on Apr 20, 2020 14:59:54 GMT -5
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Post by Grizbear-NJ on Apr 20, 2020 22:51:36 GMT -5
My Friends; For what it's worth, I did explore a little further than just a "Musicians" point of view, when I voted "I don't know at this time". I have a lot of friends who not only play in the "Clubs", but also work in, or own and operate the venues. From what I am hearing from them, the situation on the Jersey shore is in serious trouble. As I am sure any Club with live music anywhere in the USA will be effected the same way.
In New Jersey, nobody can predict when any of the restrictions will be lifted. The various venues are dependent upon the tourist trade. I won't repeat the various issues mentioned before. BUT! Without the different venues opening, there is no work for a large number of people; musical or other. It's a real "domino" effect in more ways then one.
Considering the past storms and other acts of nature encountered, there was always a relatively quick recovery; even though you can still find damage from those events. Recovery may take years with this current situation, and I have a feeling it will be a real, slow process.
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Post by Geno on Apr 21, 2020 7:43:28 GMT -5
...it will be a real, slow process Most definitely. I chose "Sometime next year and that included time for a vaccination to become available. It may take a long time for the public to gain enough trust in a vaccine to go out and party like it's 2019. On the other hand, the demand to go out and celebrate might build to the point that lifting of restrictions on bars might see an explosion of that demand and all bars may be packed like never before. What worries me is that most of the folks that come see us play are 60+ years old and many of them may never see a return of their enthusiasm to go hear live music. So even though I voted for next year "I have no idea at this time" is probably the best answer.
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Post by Duke on Apr 21, 2020 9:56:38 GMT -5
Thanks for voting. I really miss playing "live" at different places. We had a huge June wedding reception cancelled which must have cost
the bride and groom (or whoever was paying) a lot of money. I refunded their deposit because I felt bad for them.
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Post by Duke on Apr 23, 2020 9:45:02 GMT -5
After reading this, I'm not so sure if nightclubs/bars could be open by June.
"Georgia Republican Gov. Brian Kemp announced Monday that certain businesses can reopen this week in a move that breaks from the majority of state leaders and defies the warnings of many public health officials. Kemp said specifically that fitness centers, bowling alleys, body art studios, barbers, hair and nail salons, and massage therapy businesses can reopen as early Friday, April 24. Theaters and restaurants will be allowed to open on Monday, April 27, while bars and night clubs will remain closed for now. "
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Post by jazzguy on Apr 23, 2020 15:44:39 GMT -5
^
incredibly irresponsible
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Post by GmanNJ on Apr 24, 2020 7:58:26 GMT -5
as a DoD contractor the USG tells us when we can travel for work. The can keeps getting kicked down the road. Right now its June 30th. Work wont let me travel unless the gov says the program is essential. Each month it moves out another month
So lets assume that Fall is the time frame it opens up. People are not going to flock to bars/restaurants and they in turn will not dish out $$ for a band if they are not sure of how many people will show up. So this puts it in Winter time when they may feel comfortable with hiring bands. This is when the experts fear a second wave. IF that happens and we still dont have a vaccine its next year till anyone can even think about it. Dont know if there will be a natural Herd Immunity because we dont know if you can be re-infected
Also dont know how many will still be in business. Think about how small some rooms are. If they have to space people out then there may not be enough people to support the overhead costs. Imagine losing 50% of your sales. Could you still afford to be open?
Its a Brave New World
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Post by Duke on Apr 24, 2020 9:38:45 GMT -5
Yes, all of the June brides can't be very happy either.
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Post by Duke on Apr 24, 2020 22:16:08 GMT -5
Yes, but they did it anyway.
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Post by LTB on Apr 24, 2020 23:25:50 GMT -5
I meant to hit the fall but accidentally hit Next Winter
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Post by BillytheKidder on Apr 25, 2020 9:12:38 GMT -5
We are still in Fort Lauderdale for the winter, the beaches are closed, along with most everything else. There is some pressure to get business open, but I don’t think they will until there is better testing and there is a real handle on what we really have on our hands.
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Post by Duke on Apr 25, 2020 9:40:04 GMT -5
I meant to hit the fall but accidentally hit Next Winter Thanks for voting!
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