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Post by jhawkr on Jul 7, 2020 8:57:21 GMT -5
The kid has done good. 24 years old with a half billion dollar 10 year contract. He’s a smart kid and will parlay that into multiple billions. Then there is all the sponsor money, commercials, etc. To top it off, he’s a genuine nice guy.
Andy Reid knows how to pick them! 💰🤑🏈🏦💵
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jul 7, 2020 9:02:50 GMT -5
He is that indeed and fun to watch. Good for him.
Sadly, the jury is still out for me regarding if I have any interest in watching his line or work.
IMO a pathetic state of affairs going on in Professional Sports.
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Post by Leftee on Jul 7, 2020 9:17:47 GMT -5
He has been a lot of fun to watch. Good on him!
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jul 7, 2020 9:52:03 GMT -5
I also learned he is still dating a girl he started dating when he was 16 years old.
I guess he likes long term relationships, personal and professional. I’m always somewhat impressed when a young guy makes a deal that basically commits him to his team for what is likely the duration of his career. A half billion dollars helps in that decision, of course, but he probably could’ve gotten it from a bunch of teams. Maybe more if he got them bidding against one another.
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Post by HenryJ on Jul 7, 2020 10:01:36 GMT -5
My wife and I have always liked the guy. Great player to watch.
But I don't see him going back to work anytime soon. Getting sacked would be the very opposite of "social distancing."
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Post by rok-a-bill-e on Jul 7, 2020 10:06:21 GMT -5
Larry, I agree. I was done with NBA years ago and will not even watch on TV. For my baseball fix I'll take college ball and the Little League World Series once a year, just fed up with these rich cheaters and whiners. I should get enough college football, but will no doubt watch a bit of NFL on TV later in the season (depending on just how they handle the opening week but we won't talk about that here). But I have no plans to ever buy any more logo merchandise as we in the past or ever purchase another ticket even though I can walk to a game, and that makes me sad.
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Post by jhawkr on Jul 7, 2020 12:23:38 GMT -5
I could withhold my support of sports in general because I don’t like the politics but who would notice? What positive would come out of it? For football I will watch the game and do something else during pregame, halftime and postgame hi-jinx. People can spout off about whatever they want, I don’t have to listen.
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Post by fkaJimmySee on Jul 7, 2020 15:49:42 GMT -5
I was on the road this morning, listening to Chicago sports talk radio -- anytime there is any positive Mahomes story (like today with his new contract), there is endless teeth mashing and bitching in Chicago about the Bears, who traded up, gave away draft picks even to move up the ONE SPOT, and then chose the genuinely useless Mitch Trubisky over Mahomes. Then the bitching invariably devolves into why the Bears have not fired their GM who made this miscalculation, and the conversation never recovers. Those two guys (Mahomes and Trubisky) will be tied together forever in Chicago sports fans' psyche. My view of this is good for Mahomes -- he's earned it -- now hope he can stay healthy. 10 years is a long time in the NFL and chances are Andy Reid will be gone and retired before that contract ends. LaurieStory says sports is soap operas for men. I'm seeing that here.
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Post by matryx81 on Jul 7, 2020 19:16:59 GMT -5
LaurieStory says sports is soap operas for men. TRUTH! I am glad he got that contract. No Super Bowl until 2031 for them!
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Post by blindfingers on Jul 7, 2020 19:22:03 GMT -5
Nobody is worth that price! Stupid ownership will now cause all of the mediocre players to seek new contracts.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jul 7, 2020 19:31:48 GMT -5
Nobody is worth that price! Stupid ownership will now cause all of the mediocre players to seek new contracts. I think “worth” is a relative term. Between being young, energizing the fan base, selling merch, nationally televised games, etc., a guy like Mahomes probably generates WAY more money than he is paid, even when he is paid like that.
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Post by Larry Madsen on Jul 7, 2020 20:01:06 GMT -5
What is it? 45 million a year. For an elite sports kingpin like him that's not so crazy. It's the ten years that could prove to be the crazy part.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jul 7, 2020 20:11:43 GMT -5
What is it? 45 million a year. For an elite sports kingpin like him that's not so crazy. It's the ten years that could prove to be the crazy part. Thats right. The average NFL career is 3.3 years. Injuries have a way of making those long term, high dollar deals not work out. However, of the $500 million, only $140 million is guaranteed. If he gets hurt and cannot live up to the contract, he’ll likely be released and the impact will be far less than $500m.
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Post by jazzguy on Jul 7, 2020 21:26:44 GMT -5
Nobody is worth that price! Stupid ownership will now cause all of the mediocre players to seek new contracts. They've been saying that since the dawn of sports. ⁰
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Post by rangercaster on Jul 7, 2020 21:44:56 GMT -5
I like sports ...
I miss them ...
I saw Mantle homer in the house that Ruth built ...
It's just entertainment ...
Box office ...
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Post by K4 on Jul 8, 2020 1:06:42 GMT -5
I'm done with pro sports. Politics and sports are like politics and MT2, they do not go together.
Sucks but I can't stand people who get rich playing a game then tell the people who made them rich are racists or whatever the new buzz word is.
The Nascar and Bubba was the last straw for me, although I stopped watching Nascar many years ago. I might still watch the Masters and the other golf majors, unless or until they take a stand on politics.
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Post by JDC on Jul 8, 2020 4:30:48 GMT -5
I'm done with pro sports. Politics and sports are like politics and MT2, they do not go together. Sucks but I can't stand people who get rich playing a game then tell the people who made them rich are racists or whatever the new buzz word is. The Nascar and Bubba was the last straw for me, although I stopped watching Nascar many years ago. I might still watch the Masters and the other golf majors, unless or until they take a stand on politics. They'll probably have to rename that golf major, too. This is getting a little ridiculous (IMHO) www.theblaze.com/news/the-masters-name-change-racist
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Post by fkaJimmySee on Jul 8, 2020 5:58:32 GMT -5
I've never had s problem with what professional athletes are paid. They're entertainers and their income is based on the revenue they can generate, like actors, musicians and other performers.
In a sense, choosing a career as a professional athlete is a giant crapshoot. Many are called only a few are chosen. You basically have to devote your entire life to that goal, watch what you eat, remain in training every day, and the chances of making it are still slim to very nearly none.
A few years ago, I was down in Phoenix for spring training baseball with a friend. We knew the chairman of the Seattle Mariners, who were owned by Nintendo at the time, because of a long time association with the company. The former chairman of Nintendo in North America was then top guy at the Mariners and he invited us to visit their camp and see a game with him from the "owner's box."
Anyway, as we walked around the facility, he said something that really opened my eyes to all this -- of all the players we see here training in the extensive minor league fields, making next to nothing, these guys who excelled in high school and college to the point of getting signed and were working to make it to the top, so these guys are the creme of the crop, only 5% of them would ever see even one game on the major league roster.
I'm sure not going to get into a discussion of whether a teacher or nurse should be paid more than a professional player in any sport -- but if the measure of worth is the revenue someone brings in, and not the impact a person has on the lives and futures of others, there's no doubt Mahomes is worth what he's getting paid.
He spun the wheel, he dedicated his life to his craft, and came out on top.
That's life.
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Post by matryx81 on Jul 8, 2020 6:28:48 GMT -5
he dedicated his life to his craft I realize I may be splitting hairs, but I wouldn`t call athletics a craft. basically have to devote your entire life to that goal This is probably why a lot of athletes struggle after their careers are over - they don`t know how to do anything else and weren`t prepared (or encouraged to prepare) for this inevitability. I hope Mahomes can avoid that, but I am not holding my breath.
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Post by HenryJ on Jul 8, 2020 8:03:40 GMT -5
The downside to being Mahomes is that he may no longer engage in such activities as basketball and jet skiing, among other things. How many times have you seen athletes injure themselves in off-season activities? Too many times. Article
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jul 8, 2020 13:18:00 GMT -5
he dedicated his life to his craft I realize I may be splitting hairs, but I wouldn`t call athletics a craft. If you are doing it right, there’s a lot more to athletics than being a dumb jock.
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Post by matryx81 on Jul 8, 2020 14:42:44 GMT -5
I don't disagree, but I think that is the exception rather than the norm.
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Post by NoSoapRadio on Jul 8, 2020 14:54:20 GMT -5
This is probably why a lot of athletes struggle after their careers are over - they don`t know how to do anything else and weren`t prepared (or encouraged to prepare) for this inevitability. If an athlete is able to bank a half billion simoleons by playing a game I don't understand how they could put themselves in a position to "struggle" after they retire.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jul 8, 2020 15:19:20 GMT -5
I don't disagree, but I think that is the exception rather than the norm. Especially in football, where some athletes' craft is just being too heavy to move.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jul 8, 2020 15:19:55 GMT -5
This is probably why a lot of athletes struggle after their careers are over - they don`t know how to do anything else and weren`t prepared (or encouraged to prepare) for this inevitability. If an athlete is able to bank a half billion simoleons by playing a game I don't understand how they could put themselves in a position to "struggle" after they retire. I think I could do it on a quarter billion.
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Post by Auf Kiltre on Jul 8, 2020 15:39:57 GMT -5
but if the measure of worth is the revenue someone brings in, But on the other hand it can be argued that much of the revenue comes from over-inflated prices that a large segment of it's fan base cannot afford. Being a spectator is a pretty exclusive club.
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Post by rok-a-bill-e on Jul 8, 2020 17:05:56 GMT -5
That large segment of fan base can watch on TV for free, no biggie. For actually following the game, TV beats live anyway. But there is no "worth it" to anyone except the one who writes the check and I really hate the popular notion that bystanders with no skin in the game should have any say so about what someone else is paid. That is determined by the market which is determined by scarcity. Lots of folks can become teachers. Not many can be NFL QBs, and even fewer can play at that level. The high prices paid are the fault of the NFL owners themselves. If they would only pay 10% of today's salaries they would likely have the same players trying out for the positions, but rich guys kept bidding against each other, so they did it to themselves.
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Post by fkaJimmySee on Jul 8, 2020 18:13:34 GMT -5
Free agency is what drove up pay for the players. Prior to Curt Flood in baseball, and the formation of the players unions, contracts had what was known as the "reserve clause" -- which basically bound a player to a team for life, from the day they signed as a young prospect until the team decided to drop him, trade him, or otherwise get rid of them. The team would offer the player a contract with a number in it, and it was take it or leave it -- players, even star players, had very little leverage. Players were not free to sign with any other team in the league. This issue and history was covered in some detail in the Baseball movie by Ken Burns -- which is a very good watch. I learned a lot!
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jul 8, 2020 18:22:51 GMT -5
But there is no "worth it" to anyone except the one who writes the check I understand you point, but to me as a fan, if my team pays a guy a half a billion and then my team wins a bunch of championships because he is among the best QBs in the game, that’s worth it to me. And I don’t know about football, but I’m a hockey and baseball fan and going to those games is no exclusive club. You can go to a baseball game for $20, hockey even less, if you know where to look. I went to two hockey games before the season stopped this year. I paid $30. For two tickets to each game. Thanks, StubHub!
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Post by rok-a-bill-e on Jul 8, 2020 18:36:32 GMT -5
We used to go to Braves games and buy the 1$ and 5$ standing room only seats. That was a fun crowd up there and we had a blast. I doubt that those prices have survived.
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