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Post by K4 on Jan 11, 2020 19:43:20 GMT -5
Place is highly recommended for its good sauces and quality wings. Bonus they have Guinness on tap. When I walked in the door I should have turned around and left. I didn't because it was raining, dark and home is 20 min's away.
I walked in and got hit with a wall of sound reminiscent of a rock concert. I guessed around 90dB. There was a line so I thought I'd have an easy excuse for telling the others in my party the reason to leave.
No such luck, we were seated immediately. It was so loud we had to shout to be heard.
I downloaded a dB meter app and it showed an avg of 87. I still think it was 90 or above.
I looked at the design of the room and to my shock it was engineered to be LOUD. High ceilings, sharp corners, solid surfaces. Nary a piece of cloth was in the building, except for customers clothing.
Did I say there was a line to get in. What is it with people these days. I had to roll up some paper towel and use it as ear plugs, my ears are still ringing. I did save a screen shot of the dB meter and GPS info. I am seriously considering filing a formal complaint.
Rant over
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Post by rok-a-bill-e on Jan 11, 2020 20:28:15 GMT -5
No use complaining about a place that is packing them in. The crowd likes it loud. Find another place. Hate to break it to you, but "Too loud" is not by accident, they don't want old folks there. I'm not kidding. -----"High ceilings, sharp corners, solid surfaces. Nary a piece of cloth"----all of that is by design, not accident. The management wants "lively".
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Post by Chris Greene on Jan 11, 2020 20:36:09 GMT -5
Was it Buffalo Wild Wings? Some reason you didn't want to name the chain in your post? We've got one of those here and my younger son likes it. Been there two years in a row for his birthday. Can't stand the place but I'm not their target demographic. Then again, I hate eating out almost anywhere.
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Post by slowhand on Jan 11, 2020 20:39:37 GMT -5
Is there any bigger sign that your getting up there than complaining about how loud it is? Lol. I’m with you. I don’t frequent too many bars anymore because it’s always too loud.
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Post by budg on Jan 11, 2020 20:47:43 GMT -5
A lot of restaurants seem to like the ambiance of being inside a tin can. I try to avoid those places.
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Post by Pinetree on Jan 11, 2020 20:51:49 GMT -5
If it's too loud you're too old.
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Post by slacker 🐨 on Jan 11, 2020 20:52:36 GMT -5
I hate loud places like that. I have trouble understanding people when there's loud background noise. I would not be able to carry on a conversation in a place like that.
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Post by matryx81 on Jan 11, 2020 21:03:10 GMT -5
Was it Buffalo Wild Wings? Some reason you didn't want to name the chain in your post? We've got one of those here and my younger son likes it. Been there two years in a row for his birthday. Can't stand the place but I'm not their target demographic. Then again, I hate eating out almost anywhere. Assuming you are correct, I am also not a fan of that place. Beyond the noise, the food is mediocre and I am not a sports guy. K4, I am sorry that you had that experience. I wonder how places like that stay in business, but it is probably because I am not their target demographic. |
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Post by K4 on Jan 11, 2020 21:11:07 GMT -5
Sorry for not naming it.
It was Buffalo Wings and Rings.
They did have good sauce, fresh wings and the Onion rings were good, of course the Guinness was excellent.
I'm thinking about complaining to OSHA. We had to enforce a mandatory earplug policy for any dB avg over 85 at the last mill I worked at.
I'm sure they will skate because when the place is open and empty it is in compliance. Mostly ranting.
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Post by Leftee on Jan 11, 2020 21:17:48 GMT -5
What you’re “supposed” to do when you go to places like this with people is spend all night with your nose in your phone.
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Post by roly on Jan 11, 2020 22:52:27 GMT -5
I recently sound checked a Celtic band my wife plays in.
The noise floor was 87dB without loud music playing. Venue was a restaurant.
I regularly mix bands at my house gig anywhere from 95 to 103dB, depends how loud the back line is.
Bars and restaurants are apples and oranges.
I too don't like loud restaurants.
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Post by K4 on Jan 11, 2020 23:21:28 GMT -5
I also don't like Buffalo Wild Wings, but it is not for the noise. It is for the quality of the food.
At Buffalo Wings and Rings, the food was good. So I might go back during lunch. Never again on a Saturday night.
What floored me was all the parents with pre-teen kids sitting and not having a care. I wonder about the kids ears later in life...
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Post by jazzguy on Jan 12, 2020 0:32:40 GMT -5
Shoulda just turned around and split imo.
There's more than one game in most towns.
And if not, I'd suck up the 20 minute drive to go somewhere I liked.
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Post by insanecooker on Jan 12, 2020 6:31:56 GMT -5
Whenever I think there’s a chance of a place being too loud, I bring my earplugs with me.
In case I underestimated things, I also leave a few disposable foam ones in the glove compartment of my car. Never get caught without them.
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Post by Sharkie on Jan 12, 2020 9:28:33 GMT -5
Going someplace to enjoy a meal and having to wear earplugs don’t seem to jive. YMMV
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Post by LVF on Jan 12, 2020 10:25:43 GMT -5
Reading through this, my thought was 'now you know what our parents were trying to say'. Then, I read...'Saturday Night' and thought, OK, that makes sense. It's the weekend! It's louder 'cause it's the weekend'. No different than it ever has been. By the time you reach a certain age, you must become more clever at avoiding 'weekend frenzy'. As a retired person, those times for dining out or celebrating holidays is done on the 'off days' when you can generally enjoy less of the crowd and get some peace and quiet. So, it is about the demographics. The young own the weekends. The older...folks own every other day when the music being played is from the Whurlitzer in the corner by the old neighbor lady and all the food comes with mash potatoes and gravy. Simple logic.*Font size increased for this demographic*
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Post by hushnel on Jan 12, 2020 10:39:58 GMT -5
Yeah, when It’s loud I can’t hear anything but noise.
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Post by insanecooker on Jan 12, 2020 10:48:16 GMT -5
Going someplace to enjoy a meal and having to wear earplugs don’t seem to jive. YMMV A wings joint is not exactly fine dining. To me it’s closer to going to a bar, where I would always expect to wear earplugs. That said, I’m particularly careful about my hearing. YMMV |
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Post by K4 on Jan 12, 2020 10:59:41 GMT -5
It wasn't music being played too loud, it was crowd noise. The building was designed to make it loud.
Why??
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Post by Pinetree on Jan 12, 2020 11:27:57 GMT -5
Most likely, you went to one of their older stores. some designer from BMW is reinventing that chain, and they're meant to be now brighter and able to have a normal conversation away from the television monitors.
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Post by Peegoo 🏁 on Jan 12, 2020 11:29:44 GMT -5
"A wings joint is not exactly fine dining."
That.
Right there.
Along with Buffalo Wild Wings (same noise level) have a chain in this area called Greene Turtle, sort of like a TGI Fridays kinda joint. They used to be good about 15 years ago before they really took off. Today, they are quite different. There are 20 large-screen TVs on the walls, all tuned to a different game of some kind, and they're all blasting loudly so anyone that wants to talk to their friends has to yell. Perhaps this is why I see so many people rubbing their little blue light instead of interacting without the assistance of electronica.
Now, I've never been inside a plane on fire with the wings shot off and hurtling straight down to the earth, but I imagine it sounds quite similar to the Greene Turtle.
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Post by Mfitz804 on Jan 12, 2020 11:31:51 GMT -5
"A wings joint is not exactly fine dining." That. Right there. Along with Buffalo Wild Wings (same noise level) have a chain in this area called Greene Turtle, sort of like a TGI Fridays kinda joint. They used to be good about 15 years ago before they really took off. Today, they are quite different. There are 20 large-screen TVs on the walls, all tuned to a different game of some kind, and they're all blasting loudly so anyone that wants to talk to their friends has to yell. Perhaps this is why I see so many people rubbing their little blue light instead of interacting without the assistance of electronica. Now, I've never been inside a plane on fire with the wings shot off and hurtling straight down to the earth, but I imagine it sounds quite similar to the Greene Turtle. Is that what Chris Greene is up to now??? |
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Post by oldnjplayer on Jan 12, 2020 11:34:25 GMT -5
I feel your pain. Last fall went up to Boston to see some old friends that I last saw over 15 years ago. They picked me up from the train station and took me to this very nice looking Bar/restaurant. The music was provided by an acoustic duo. Very talented but also very very loud. We were unable to talk or hear each other. We ate ASAP and left. Spent the next few hours talking quietly, drinking coffee on their deck.
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Post by K4 on Jan 12, 2020 12:01:23 GMT -5
Piney, nope. This location is a few years old.
The Country Club I used to belong to decided to remodel the club house. Part of that was redoing the dining area. When finished it was unusable due to reflected noise. Again it was a design decision at the start. They spent many thousands of dollars adding sound absorbing material to dampen the acoustics.
It is something with the younger generation, they like loud environments.
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Post by capnhiho on Jan 12, 2020 12:02:50 GMT -5
There are a number of establishments that I refuse to patronize during “peak” hours. Being retirees (read “geezers”), my wife and I can be more selective in when we dine. At some of these places we only go for late lunch/early dinner - between the lunch and after-work happy hour, when the dB levels are tolerable, and some we refuse to patronize at all. I worked in and around oil production most of my career and have often told my wife “If this was a workplace, hearing protection would be required” (didn’t need a dB meter to determine it!). Then I realized that it *is* a workplace for servers and staff.
I wonder how these places get away with it.
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Post by rok-a-bill-e on Jan 12, 2020 12:20:24 GMT -5
“If this was a workplace, hearing protection would be required”
What about the staff in clubs or at concerts with live rock music, or loud DJs? Is that against the law? I've never seen bartenders or barmaids wearing hearing protection. What about drag races? Indoor Monster Trucks? Lots of loud stuff out there, with willing workers and willing customers.
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Post by Juice N on Jan 12, 2020 12:38:12 GMT -5
Sorry for not naming it. It was Buffalo Wings and Rings. They did have good sauce, fresh wings and the Onion rings were good, of course the Guinness was excellent. I'm thinking about complaining to OSHA. We had to enforce a mandatory earplug policy for any dB avg over 85 at the last mill I worked at. I'm sure they will skate because when the place is open and empty it is in compliance. Mostly ranting. The OSHA standard for hearing protection is 94 for single protection and 104 for double hearing protection. 85 db is not that loud |
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Post by Sharkie on Jan 12, 2020 13:02:01 GMT -5
Going someplace to enjoy a meal and having to wear earplugs don’t seem to jive. YMMV A wings joint is not exactly fine dining. To me it’s closer to going to a bar, where I would always expect to wear earplugs. That said, I’m particularly careful about my hearing. YMMV I hear ya. 👍 |
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Post by Pinetree on Jan 12, 2020 13:49:47 GMT -5
Quaker Steak and Lube is a much better place.
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Post by K4 on Jan 12, 2020 13:56:38 GMT -5
Quaker Steak and Lube is a much better place. I forgot about that one, and it is much closer. |
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